Couldn't agree more. I (sorry, guys) love Cubase and would like to see the beast streamlined a bit more. The load up time is just ridiculous. Judging by the demos of EnergyXT and FL Studio - whose startup time is about 4 nanoseconds... (not going to go into pointing out the differences between these and Cubase) it'd be nice if Cubase would just let you manually add the instruments/effects you want to use.seamoss wrote:the ability to not check vsts on start up would be an outstanding feature
Cubase 4
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- KVRist
- 256 posts since 23 May, 2006
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- KVRian
- 1325 posts since 6 Mar, 2001 from London, UK
The Steinberg Forum Moderators staff party. Cleveland, 2006.
(Left to right) Christian Dettner, Eck Hard Doll, Bas (in a fetching satin number, hand sequined by his mum), Morton Anus (Yamaha USA), a drunk from off the street, Frodo from Nuendo.net, the prissy cow who used to answer the phones at Arbiter, Charlie Steinberg and a token customer.
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- KVRian
- 1143 posts since 6 Oct, 2004 from berlin
seriously, as far as gui is concearned, cubase 5 and sx3 had the best and most easy to use interfaces ever. i hope they don't chuk it up... i made the switch to Logic 7 over a year ago but i still miss the cubase gui and the way things are layed out. i want to kill whoever thought it would be smart to make the first note you step sequence always a 16th note in Logic and I hate that "smart" snap shit in the Logic midi editor... at least in Cubase, snap always defaults to the grid size/note size you're entering.
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- KVRAF
- 6478 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
deggy wrote:seriously, as far as gui is concearned, cubase 5 and sx3 had the best and most easy to use interfaces ever. i hope they don't chuk it up... i made the switch to Logic 7 over a year ago but i still miss the cubase gui and the way things are layed out.
I swear, you are the first person in existance to ever say that!
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- KVRian
- 555 posts since 10 Nov, 2005 from Scotland
Well that's just so cruel and insulting .............HanafiH wrote:
The Steinberg Forum Moderators staff party. Cleveland, 2006.
(Left to right) Christian Dettner, Eck Hard Doll, Bas (in a fetching satin number, hand sequined by his mum), Morton Anus (Yamaha USA), a drunk from off the street, Frodo from Nuendo.net, the prissy cow who used to answer the phones at Arbiter, Charlie Steinberg and a token customer.
What's those animation characters ever done to deserve such a insult
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- KVRian
- 1143 posts since 6 Oct, 2004 from berlin
oh comon, you know that even though they aren't saying it, everyone who made the switch is thinkin it...Kingston wrote:deggy wrote:seriously, as far as gui is concearned, cubase 5 and sx3 had the best and most easy to use interfaces ever. i hope they don't chuk it up... i made the switch to Logic 7 over a year ago but i still miss the cubase gui and the way things are layed out.
I swear, you are the first person in existance to ever say that!
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- KVRAF
- 1949 posts since 21 Mar, 2003 from Labrador
I thought they had said BY the end of 2006-which means any time btween now and December 31 2006.gunnar wrote:steinberg was talking about end of 2006v-tech wrote:I'd say a mashed up Logic/Ableton look
Anyone knows about the release date?
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- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
Kingston, you know there are people who are perfectly happy with Cubase. It happens.Kingston wrote:deggy wrote:seriously, as far as gui is concearned, cubase 5 and sx3 had the best and most easy to use interfaces ever. i hope they don't chuk it up... i made the switch to Logic 7 over a year ago but i still miss the cubase gui and the way things are layed out.
I swear, you are the first person in existance to ever say that!
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- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
I know! REPENT! REPENT!Elakhna wrote:Blasphemy!!!bduffy wrote: Kingston, you know there are people who are perfectly happy with Cubase. It happens.
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- KVRian
- 1302 posts since 9 Oct, 2003 from California
WHAT!HanafiH wrote: Charlie Steinberg and a token customer.
I was O.K. with the dongle but now we gotta use tokens?
Sheesh!
Dan
Those that can, do. Those that can't, argue about it on k-v-r
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- KVRAF
- 14740 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany
God I hate the new look already. It's a mix of of Ableton and Logic. I loved the flashy buttons. I also don't like the new channel strip (where are my boxes to write in my settings?!). The fader is to the right now (bleargh), still no sign of "OMG SIDECHAIN ON" (unless that's that button below mute and solo), etc.
The control pannel for the devices is nice graphically, but I see no use in it. Not intuitive IMO. The instruments? Okay, layout overhaul, but really looks like a mix of Sonar, Logic and Boris K now. Where's the A1? Where's a convolution reverb (new plugins in general)?
I'm fairly sure, Steinberg brings us new "toys" again (you decide if they're good or bad - but a "scope" while browsing files? BLEARGH, CPU hog), however I'm 100% certain that they missed out requests again, and it'll be buggy as hell.
I'm also surprised that Musician's Friend knows of SX4 and it's layout already, but Steinberg themselves don't know jack, neither was their page updated.
However, I'm most curious about the upgrade prices. 99Euro for SX4 from SX3? Or 150Euro to 200Euro? Fair priced and a competition to Sonar/Logic, or is the included material crap as usual (who needs a HalionPlayer, if the engine stood still since V1!).
We will see - as soon as it's out... or something like that.
The control pannel for the devices is nice graphically, but I see no use in it. Not intuitive IMO. The instruments? Okay, layout overhaul, but really looks like a mix of Sonar, Logic and Boris K now. Where's the A1? Where's a convolution reverb (new plugins in general)?
I'm fairly sure, Steinberg brings us new "toys" again (you decide if they're good or bad - but a "scope" while browsing files? BLEARGH, CPU hog), however I'm 100% certain that they missed out requests again, and it'll be buggy as hell.
I'm also surprised that Musician's Friend knows of SX4 and it's layout already, but Steinberg themselves don't know jack, neither was their page updated.
However, I'm most curious about the upgrade prices. 99Euro for SX4 from SX3? Or 150Euro to 200Euro? Fair priced and a competition to Sonar/Logic, or is the included material crap as usual (who needs a HalionPlayer, if the engine stood still since V1!).
We will see - as soon as it's out... or something like that.
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- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
I wouldn't get too wound up yet; way too early to pass judgement, n'est pas? Those could be beta leaks.
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- KVRAF
- 1949 posts since 21 Mar, 2003 from Labrador
Of course Steinberg knows the specs. Those pic are called 'teasers' and are released all the time by companies as an early form of publicity for a soon to be released product.Compyfox wrote:
I'm also surprised that Musician's Friend knows of SX4 and it's layout already, but Steinberg themselves don't know jack, neither was their page updated.
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- KVRAF
- 14740 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany
YEEEEEEEAH! But... why not on the Steinberg page? Okay Steinberg (firm) is strange anyway, they also said "no infoleak till end of september" (which means it comes out 3rd October, like last time - oh wait "Tag der deutschen Einheit" in Germany, or November.
Also... Cubase 4, either that's a typo (I mean, the cover sure looks like Wavelab) or it'S really a step into the stoneage (OMG, I might fire up my VST3.7 again!).
We will see. So far, it's sugarbread - but when will Steinberg whip out assed? I guess right after we bought SX4 (aka - we're beta testers for bugfixes).
We will see, maybe we get some goodies this time (Impulse Reverb, new compressors, a 5.1 RMS meter, sidechaining, custom plugin movement in the channelstip, etc). However I'm glad that I kept my old cubase versions for some of the VSTi's (A1 especially) that will sure be dropped.
Also... Cubase 4, either that's a typo (I mean, the cover sure looks like Wavelab) or it'S really a step into the stoneage (OMG, I might fire up my VST3.7 again!).
We will see. So far, it's sugarbread - but when will Steinberg whip out assed? I guess right after we bought SX4 (aka - we're beta testers for bugfixes).
We will see, maybe we get some goodies this time (Impulse Reverb, new compressors, a 5.1 RMS meter, sidechaining, custom plugin movement in the channelstip, etc). However I'm glad that I kept my old cubase versions for some of the VSTi's (A1 especially) that will sure be dropped.