eq/ compression question.
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- KVRAF
- 3024 posts since 25 Feb, 2005
I just bought the waves multiband linear phase eq and also the multiband compressor.
I also have an avalon 2055 and a finalizer.
Does the use of the hardware simply undo or counter the use of it's software counterpart or can they compliment each other for the same task of mixing/mastering.
Anybody know of any professionals that use both together?
I also have an avalon 2055 and a finalizer.
Does the use of the hardware simply undo or counter the use of it's software counterpart or can they compliment each other for the same task of mixing/mastering.
Anybody know of any professionals that use both together?
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- KVRAF
- 3617 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from Bradford - The Armpit of Britain
Didn't someone recently post a link to an article by craig someone or other (famous sound engineer type dude) who was discussing this question?
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- KVRian
- 1219 posts since 12 Aug, 2002
I would say this depends on your familiarity with the tools, and what you want to accomplish with them. A hybrid hardware/software approach can be a very powerful marriage...I certainly favour the melding of digital and analog technologies, as do many other engineers.dblock wrote:Does the use of the hardware simply undo or counter the use of it's software counterpart or can they compliment each other for the same task of mixing/mastering.
That said, if you have poor digital/analog convertors, there is going to be little sense in bussing tracks from your computer to access hardware of *any* quality, because the convertors will properly kill any advantages your hardware might offer due to the conversion process. In this case, you would be better off keeping things totally in the digital realm and work entirely with software...the best you can afford, naturally.
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- KVRAF
- 2610 posts since 23 Jun, 2006
converters kill something, but avalon is avalon.
sure sometimes software kills more than hardware converters.
sure sometimes software kills more than hardware converters.
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- KVRAF
- 5851 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
IMHO the converters have to be pretty crap before they negate the use of quality external hardware.
With high sample & bitrates, mono tracks the negative effect of any basic prosumer converter is neglible.
disclaimer - this is just my opinion and I understand that others may have much higher standards.
With high sample & bitrates, mono tracks the negative effect of any basic prosumer converter is neglible.
disclaimer - this is just my opinion and I understand that others may have much higher standards.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3024 posts since 25 Feb, 2005
I would say this depends on your familiarity with the tools, and what you want to accomplish with them. A hybrid hardware/software approach can be a very powerful marriage...I certainly favour the melding of digital and analog technologies, as do many other engineers.
That said, if you have poor digital/analog convertors, there is going to be little sense in bussing tracks from your computer to access hardware of *any* quality, because the convertors will properly kill any advantages your hardware might offer due to the conversion process. In this case, you would be better off keeping things totally in the digital realm and work entirely with software...the best you can afford, naturally.[/quote]
I appreciate the input. You mentioned the digital aspect which I hadn't considered but as a semi pro hobbyist,I'm comfortable knowing that melding the two isn't an absolute no-no as I improve on how to make it work.
Thanks
That said, if you have poor digital/analog convertors, there is going to be little sense in bussing tracks from your computer to access hardware of *any* quality, because the convertors will properly kill any advantages your hardware might offer due to the conversion process. In this case, you would be better off keeping things totally in the digital realm and work entirely with software...the best you can afford, naturally.[/quote]
I appreciate the input. You mentioned the digital aspect which I hadn't considered but as a semi pro hobbyist,I'm comfortable knowing that melding the two isn't an absolute no-no as I improve on how to make it work.
Thanks
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- KVRist
- 166 posts since 23 Feb, 2006
Generally, try to use your analog hardware while tracking - it's much easier. By compressing and eq'ing before the A/D, you maximise the resolution of the converter. You then need less compression & eq at mix time, and software can probably get the job done. You already have the analog flavour. The downside is limited options, and the potential to screw up a take. But sometimes freedom of choice is a good thing, and often creative decisions made early and locked in can be a good thing too.
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- KVRian
- 831 posts since 7 Sep, 2004
I can only highly recommend the Waves LinEQ lowband for tweaking bassdrums and basses and can't imagine to reeach better results with other EQs plus two conversions.
But how about letting the ears decide, which method gives you the better results?
But how about letting the ears decide, which method gives you the better results?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3024 posts since 25 Feb, 2005
Some great suggestions Kiwburger. Thanks alot.Kiwburger wrote:Generally, try to use your analog hardware while tracking - it's much easier. By compressing and eq'ing before the A/D, you maximise the resolution of the converter. You then need less compression & eq at mix time, and software can probably get the job done. You already have the analog flavour. The downside is limited options, and the potential to screw up a take. But sometimes freedom of choice is a good thing, and often creative decisions made early and locked in can be a good thing too.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3024 posts since 25 Feb, 2005
Well put Barbarossa. When I ordered the mastering bundle I wasn't aware the eqs were split up like that. ThanksBarbarossa wrote:I can only highly recommend the Waves LinEQ lowband for tweaking bassdrums and basses and can't imagine to reeach better results with other EQs plus two conversions.
But how about letting the ears decide, which method gives you the better results?

