Philharmonik Miroslav,Motu symphonic,Halion symphonic
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- KVRist
- 267 posts since 15 Apr, 2002 from Wiltshire, UK
Vienna Symphonic Library 
While I can't speak for the other two, I strongly recommend Philharmonik, especially the brass sections. It can really be your one-stop orchestra: efficient and intuitive GUI, lush sound and great FX package too (CSR Reverb especially). I know for a fact, you won't get that in Halion, though I haven't experienced the convolution reverb in MOTU to comment.
While I can't speak for the other two, I strongly recommend Philharmonik, especially the brass sections. It can really be your one-stop orchestra: efficient and intuitive GUI, lush sound and great FX package too (CSR Reverb especially). I know for a fact, you won't get that in Halion, though I haven't experienced the convolution reverb in MOTU to comment.
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- KVRAF
- 3476 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from NE Ohio, USA
Several people have expressed disappointment with MOTU's offering in the Instruments or Samples sections. I would be skeptical because I'm a Windows user and MOTU's roots are strongly in the Mac area. Their Windows programs tend to lag behind the Mac offerings (witness Mach5) and be buggy initially.
I don't know about Halion's orchestra, but I knew about Miroslav's quality even before SR bought it out. It was "up there" as one of the best and best-known (VSL being the other 'really big name'). I got Miroslav to complement GPO, and later got Kontakt2 which has a small portion of VSL in it. I've given a little thought to Kirk Hunter Sapphire, but no serious consideration.
For the lyrical mellow stuff I go to Miroslav first.
Doug
I don't know about Halion's orchestra, but I knew about Miroslav's quality even before SR bought it out. It was "up there" as one of the best and best-known (VSL being the other 'really big name'). I got Miroslav to complement GPO, and later got Kontakt2 which has a small portion of VSL in it. I've given a little thought to Kirk Hunter Sapphire, but no serious consideration.
For the lyrical mellow stuff I go to Miroslav first.
Doug
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Best is always a matter of opinion but regardless I think Miroslav Philharmonik is a product not to miss out on. It's too inspiring and beautiful sounding as far as I am concerned. I use it all the time and we're very proud of it. It's actually the top selling orchestral plug-in in the retail market right now over everything. So, it's a good choice. Not that the others aren't good choices either.
If you decide to get it then please check it out on www.esoundz.com
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 3 posts since 31 Aug, 2006
Well,and what about articulation?For example Halion has a key switching it.But brass sound as i have heard from demo -I didnt like so much.Im looking for "hollywod brasses",as you can hear them from adventures moovies.Is it possible to get them from Miroslav?
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- KVRist
- 267 posts since 15 Apr, 2002 from Wiltshire, UK
if you want Hollywood, then EWQLSO is the way to go...only you're pretty much stuck in a very narrow stylistic area. Philharmonik is far more malleable, as you can pull the Hollywood sound off (maybe not as great as EWQL, but what else can?!) as well as easily have the most lush sounding brass around for those blissful, soaring moments. Plus, Philharmonik has great choirs - which to my ears, really sell the Hollywood sound you're looking for, as choirs have really made a big impact on films in recent years (John Williams - Revenge of the Sith, John Ottman - Superman Returns).
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- KVRAF
- 3476 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from NE Ohio, USA
I'm told that Kirk Hunter & EWQLSO are much more 'Hollywood-style' than Philharmonik. It depends what you're writing for, I guess.
Doug
Doug
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
I have EWQLSO and it is good for that kind of bombastic Hollywood Brass and also in your fae strings. Although I find Miroslav to be more "emotional" and fits in better with a wider variety of music. It doesn't have traditional key swithing (although there is a trick to get it to do "control message switching".) But, that's more for a live playing situation. In a sequencing situation where you'd be likely to do most of your composition/production you could simply load up the multi artiuculation combis and get the performance variation you'd want.
In my set up I have Philharmonik, EWQLSO Gold and Vienna. I also have now the Sonic Implants complete orchestra as well which I like some of as well. I find that being able to go to any of these really broadens the spectrum of what is possible in terms of emulating an orchestra even when at the end of the day it still isn't the same as the real thing! But, honestly even with all of that I find that I use Philharmonik 90% of the time. It could be because I just know it so well since we programmed it. But, it's only part that, part efficiency and convenience (fits on all of my computer HD's is one benefit... like laptops... the others are too big for that) and of course the sound is just beautiful to me. Really sits in the mix nicely and at the end of the day that IS all the listener hears. The listener doesn't know the technical specs or how many GB your library was. They only know the end result and in my opinion that is what matters most... what your tracks are going to SOUND like.
In my set up I have Philharmonik, EWQLSO Gold and Vienna. I also have now the Sonic Implants complete orchestra as well which I like some of as well. I find that being able to go to any of these really broadens the spectrum of what is possible in terms of emulating an orchestra even when at the end of the day it still isn't the same as the real thing! But, honestly even with all of that I find that I use Philharmonik 90% of the time. It could be because I just know it so well since we programmed it. But, it's only part that, part efficiency and convenience (fits on all of my computer HD's is one benefit... like laptops... the others are too big for that) and of course the sound is just beautiful to me. Really sits in the mix nicely and at the end of the day that IS all the listener hears. The listener doesn't know the technical specs or how many GB your library was. They only know the end result and in my opinion that is what matters most... what your tracks are going to SOUND like.
