KVR Audio

Cordelia · Post by **Cordelia** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:15 pm

Hey all,
I want to find a GM soundfont that can replicate the crappy sounds that used to come out of my mid 90s PII Dell lap top. You know the sound- not SID chip crappy, much more sophisticated- violins like whiny whistles, synths like bees, drums like spit.
Can anyone suggest such a soundfont?
Thanks.

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:00 pm

hrm. what soundchip was on board your dell? was it a ess maestro? if so, i believe that used the emulated wavetable stuff in the microsoft directsound dls file. don't know if you can convert a dls to a sf2 or not, but flstudio has a dls loader/player. the dls file should be on your machine already, search for *.dls.

there are loads of crappy gm soundfonts. one of them ships with the creative cards (i think it's the 4meg soundfont) starting with awe32 or live? i cant remember. i have it though. if you want it i can attach it somehow. pm me.

it might be adlib which you are looking for, which IMO is so cute and awesome sounding (because it was only trying a little bit to sound like a real set of instruments and that is it's entire charm for me).. in which case i don't know of any adlib sf2's but would love to know if one exists!

does an adlib sf2 exist??? (not asking you cordelia but asking others who would read and may know) -- ildon? chase? anyone?

i think now that you say 'drums like spit' you are probably looking for adlib

Ildon · Post by **Ildon** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:09 pm

The Scc1t2 soundfont, maybe. That sounds like Windows' GM sounds, except they're slightly higher quality.

Edirol's VSC also has a shit sound you could look into, and it has SC-88 Pro support, so you can sound like shit and write music for every corner of the universe.

I have no idea about this adlib thing. I don't know what chip was in your Dell, but if it's the sound I'm thinking of, the Scc1t2 font from Hammersound is the way to go.

The SCC-1 was a soundcard that contains cleaner versions of the stuff in Windows GM/GS DLS file. That's what the Scc1t2 soundfont is all about.

Looks like hammersound.net is down. Same with sf2midi.com. The hell?

I don't know if I'm allowed to mirror it or anything...

Cordelia · Post by **Cordelia** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:13 pm

Yes, grymmjack, that's it. The sound is charming in a way that the original Creative SF isn't. It may be adlib, that sounds like the right idea. (The original Dell chip may have been a Crystal something or other.) But yes, the adlib sound style is what I'm after. Anybody else have an idea?
(Thanks for the reply, grymmjack.)

Cordelia · Post by **Cordelia** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:24 pm

Thanks, Ildon. I'll check out the Scc1t2 as soon as I can download. If it sounds as good (!) as the Edirol VSC it might be better quality than I'm looking for. (That's a crazy sentence, huh?)
Why didn't I sample that laptop before it went down for good?

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:36 pm

ildon; gonna try that scc1t2 font. thanks brother.

edit: hammersound is down. any other sites may have it?

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:38 pm

@cordelia; np. there is a vsti out called nostaljia made by gregjazz that emulates the adlib sounds quite beautifully!

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... =nostaljia

Cordelia · Post by **Cordelia** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:33 pm

Cool, grymmjack, downloading now! How do you find the time? I'm also downloading the new GVST skins. Beautiful. Thanks for everything.

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:41 am

"Adlib" sound comes from the compatible Yamaha "OPL" chip. This was a 4-operator FM synth. Something very simular can be achieved with VOPM: virtual OPM chip (it's successor)
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/228.html

Cordelia · Post by **Cordelia** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:18 am

Thanks BertKoor! Another great lead. VOPM looks like fun. I'm getting closer to what I need now. I was able to program some of the bad sounding GM keys (piano, marimba) with Nostaljia last night.
Hopefully the Scc1t2 soundfont will be just right, but if not, I could recreate the instrument sounds with these synths and then build my own charmingly very bad GM soundfont.

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:44 am

BertKoor wrote:"Adlib" sound comes from the compatible Yamaha "OPL" chip. This was a 4-operator FM synth. Something very simular can be achieved with VOPM: virtual OPM chip (it's successor)
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/228.html

awesome! thanks.

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:45 am

Cordelia wrote:Cool, grymmjack, downloading now! How do you find the time? I'm also downloading the new GVST skins. Beautiful. Thanks for everything.

thanks cordelia. finding the time is always an issue. it's been months of time spent to work on those gvst skins. it takes long because amount of freetime is always broken up by lifes demands.

have you tried out nostaljia yet? it's quite good.

Looking for bad GM sounds