EWQL Symphonic Choirs Group Buy = Finally !

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I've been waiting for the EWQL Choirs to be for sale and now it's finally happening:
http://www.soundsonline-forums.com/show ... php?t=5274 (http://www.soundsonline-forums.com/showthread.php?t=5274)

I wanted to buy this since it came out but could not afford it. I'm in!
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i can not i must buy my live 6 upgrade ! :cry: :cry: :cry:
someone gimme some money please :cry: :cry: :cry:

only $398 :cry:
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Lovely. But alas, it's sample based. And on many of the music tracks I can hear subtlies that would never let me forget that I'm listening to samples. Still, it's a great package for composers who want to spice up their mixes with choir vocals.

I still stick to my hard and fast rules - if it's an instrument that is supposed to create realistic representation of a real acoustic object (like vocals, sax, woodwinds, brass, bowed strings, guitars, etc) and it's based on the playback of static samples then the answer is NO...I will NOT buy it. That rule applies to this, and yes it does sound cool, but as for all things based on playback of static samples, it lacks the fluid transitions that most listeners are going to expect.

A couple of exceptions to this rule are Garritan's new Solo Violin and the upcoming Solo Cello. Yes they are sample-based but the harmonic alignment technology applied to the samples is phenomenal since it allows smooth transitions and dynamics that make it sound like you're hearing the real deal. Honestly, I couldn't tell the difference between tracks created with these instruments from the real deal and that's not a joke. The same thing applies to the upcoming synth from Arwa, where the special analysis of samples is used to recreate the sound of real acoustic instruments since this data is used by a special synthesis technology to resynthesise the sound with fluid transition and dynamics. Yes, in both these cases the sound is ultimately based on samples, but it's the processing and the end result that makes all the difference. These two cases are NOT your typical run-of-the-mill static sample playback that today's musicians are so quickly getting sick and tired of. These are totally different technologies and much, much, much more faithful to the real acoustic instruments.
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benjamind wrote:Lovely. But alas, it's sample based. And on many of the music tracks I can hear subtlies that would never let me forget that I'm listening to samples. Still, it's a great package for composers who want to spice up their mixes with choir vocals.

I still stick to my hard and fast rules - if it's an instrument that is supposed to create realistic representation of a real acoustic object (like vocals, sax, woodwinds, brass, bowed strings, guitars, etc) and it's based on the playback of static samples then the answer is NO...I will NOT buy it. That rule applies to this, and yes it does sound cool, but as for all things based on playback of static samples, it lacks the fluid transitions that most listeners are going to expect.

A couple of exceptions to this rule are Garritan's new Solo Violin and the upcoming Solo Cello. Yes they are sample-based but the harmonic alignment technology applied to the samples is phenomenal since it allows smooth transitions and dynamics that make it sound like you're hearing the real deal. Honestly, I couldn't tell the difference between tracks created with these instruments from the real deal and that's not a joke. The same thing applies to the upcoming synth from Arwa, where the special analysis of samples is used to recreate the sound of real acoustic instruments since this data is used by a special synthesis technology to resynthesise the sound with fluid transition and dynamics. Yes, in both these cases the sound is ultimately based on samples, but it's the processing and the end result that makes all the difference. These two cases are NOT your typical run-of-the-mill static sample playback that today's musicians are so quickly getting sick and tired of. These are totally different technologies and much, much, much more faithful to the real acoustic instruments.
Well...if you want anything that's even anywhere CLOSE to realism when it comes to vocals in the year 2006, and probably this decade for that matter, samples are pretty much your only choice (short of hiring real singers of course). I mean, the state of the art of vocal synthesis is represented by Vocaloid :-o, and I really doubt most listeners (ANY listeners really) would consider that more "faithful to the real thing"...fluid transitions notwithstanding... :wink:

Besides, this is the "Samples, Sampling And Sample Libraries" section... :hihi:

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After 2 minutes of pondering I decided I'm in!!! :x :x :x Damn EastWest :tantrum: :tantrum: :tantrum: :bang: :bang:
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benjamind wrote:Lovely. But alas, it's sample based. And on many of the music tracks I can hear subtlies that would never let me forget that I'm listening to samples. Still, it's a great package for composers who want to spice up their mixes with choir vocals.

I still stick to my hard and fast rules - if it's an instrument that is supposed to create realistic representation of a real acoustic object (like vocals, sax, woodwinds, brass, bowed strings, guitars, etc) and it's based on the playback of static samples then the answer is NO...I will NOT buy it. That rule applies to this, and yes it does sound cool, but as for all things based on playback of static samples, it lacks the fluid transitions that most listeners are going to expect.

A couple of exceptions to this rule are Garritan's new Solo Violin and the upcoming Solo Cello. Yes they are sample-based but the harmonic alignment technology applied to the samples is phenomenal since it allows smooth transitions and dynamics that make it sound like you're hearing the real deal. Honestly, I couldn't tell the difference between tracks created with these instruments from the real deal and that's not a joke. The same thing applies to the upcoming synth from Arwa, where the special analysis of samples is used to recreate the sound of real acoustic instruments since this data is used by a special synthesis technology to resynthesise the sound with fluid transition and dynamics. Yes, in both these cases the sound is ultimately based on samples, but it's the processing and the end result that makes all the difference. These two cases are NOT your typical run-of-the-mill static sample playback that today's musicians are so quickly getting sick and tired of. These are totally different technologies and much, much, much more faithful to the real acoustic instruments.
When I started reading your post I was just thinking in my head "wonder if hes heard Garritans solo instruments" :hihi: would be nice if more libraries picked up the technology.

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Did I have to read this? I feel my wallet suddenly lighter...
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Garritan will be releasing the whole quartet under that technology and after that well skys the limit^_- also there is another new one coming out(check the back of this months VirtualInstruments Mag.
There is no other Sample chior library that can rival EastWest. what are you going to do higher a huge **** chior? Cost so much money to set up! When you can have nice Chior right in your studio easly!
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Imho, you have to be using MAJOR amounts of choir in your productions to even begin to justify the group buy price.
Anti-aliasing is for "synthmonk%ys".

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Symphonic Choirs is one of the most innovative sample libraries available, with Wordbuilder allowing you to type words and phrases that the sampled choirs will sing! Now this will not be used in everybody's music, but it sure is a major leap forward in choir sampling.
If you take a listen to the demos on the product page you'll get a clear idea what it does.

http://www.soundsonline-europe.com/East ... -165G.html

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I am on the fence....I would really like to say 'I'm in'...

Someone convince me.

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Is there anything that is an alternative option that comes even close to its features?

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GIGA Sampler and "Voices of the Apocalypse" maybe.
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Compyfox wrote:GIGA Sampler and "Voices of the Apocalypse" maybe.
judging from the demos, I like voices of the apocalypse more :P

:edit:hmm, checking out afew of the video demos of symphonic choirs, seems more impressive in that context imo.

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