Well software compression anyway...Blockfish and Endorphin, used judiciously, are really all the compression one needs for all kinds of musical applications.
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- KVRian
- 1193 posts since 23 Jan, 2006 from wrapped up in the fuzz - Boston, MA!
"Music is a hidden arithmetic exercise of the soul, which doesn't know that it is counting." - Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibniz
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e to the i pi plus one equals zero
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e to the i pi plus one equals zero
- KVRian
- 1141 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from Berlin, Germany
Let me just throw in here... the output stage is just a saturator. Neither is it level-dependent nor does it introduce any envelope processing. Just clipping in a relatively soft way.kritikon wrote:As Diverdee said...
So, of course there's limiting going on. Although I would suspect the saturation is level-dependent. I haven't tested if there's any saturation on low levels - if it were trying to be a real emulation, then it wouldn't.There's saturation going on
'saturation on low levels' is only true if you consider saturation as a whole level-dependent: it only takes place on loud signals as the in-out curve is nonlinear and squashes the more things get closer to 0dBFS.
The 'main' saturation stage in blockfish & andorphin is partly level-dependent. The signal shifts the bias point (adjustable with blockfish) and saturation changes therefore.
So no 'limiter' on the very output. Also not with endorphin. I read such assumptions a few times, utters being multiplied, and that makes me grin... those folks, use your ears and don't believe everything they say on the net
Sascha Eversmeier [formerly digitalfishphones]
TOURAGE DSP
croquesolid drum processor- mix real drums fast & focused
TOURAGE DSP
croquesolid drum processor- mix real drums fast & focused
- u-he
- 30188 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Thanks for clearing this up dude... I was almost gonna boot an old computer to verify this, b/c I couldn't remember any limiter...
Urs
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- KVRist
- 415 posts since 14 Dec, 2004
I don't really know what they did then at the end with the square wave but it seemed cool enough.... I would have prefered to see what they can do with some nice modern filter bassed delays and dub delay recreations!!!
- KVRAF
- 3846 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Underworld
I asumed there was a limiter, because I couldn't make it to clip
. So it's only the clever saturator. Nice. Irons the sound quite well.
Thank you Sasha for these gems.
Cheers!
Thank you Sasha for these gems.
Cheers!
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - Jiddu Krishnamurti
- KVRAF
- 6478 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
It is.musicL wrote:This is my favourite compressor EVER. I've always hoped it would be updated, expanded, and continued forever.
... in samplitude. (although I doubt much of the original blockfish code has survived during all the improvements)
- KVRian
- 1141 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from Berlin, Germany
Close to nothing. Mainly some of the concepts deep in my head survived and those are quite independent of written code. Code is always subject to changes.Kingston wrote:It is.musicL wrote:This is my favourite compressor EVER. I've always hoped it would be updated, expanded, and continued forever.
... in samplitude. (although I doubt much of the original blockfish code has survived during all the improvements)
Sascha Eversmeier [formerly digitalfishphones]
TOURAGE DSP
croquesolid drum processor- mix real drums fast & focused
TOURAGE DSP
croquesolid drum processor- mix real drums fast & focused
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- KVRAF
- 1651 posts since 14 May, 2002 from Earth
- KVRAF
- 6478 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
http://www.digitalfishphones.com/main.p ... &subItem=1smart wrote:Sacha, what plugins did you make that are in Samplitude/Sequoia?
and their previous incarnations (and probably more that hasn't been mentioned on that site)
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- KVRian
- 509 posts since 10 Aug, 2004
maybe it's just me, but i compared blockfish against the am-track (on drums/bass/guitar) and still preferred blockfish in most instances. i REALLY wish it was still being developed. 
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 587 posts since 18 Jul, 2004
thank you Sascha for your time. is there any other compressor that has cliper on the out? i thought it was a cliper i even suggested that the next voxengo compressor have one in this post http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 09#2083909 clipers can limt the dynamics! gclip is another free vst that i use in protools it is that good
- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
You sure? I never heard that before...beej wrote:Waves RenComp has an L1-style limiter on its output.


