best way sonically to change tempo of vocal
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- KVRist
- 69 posts since 10 Nov, 2004
i use cubase sx 3.1 as main daw. amd remixing song which i have a pristine vocal stem. am ramping up bpm from 84 to 100. in cubase using the mpex 2 alg - i still hear some unfortunate artifacts in the spedup vocal.
what do you use when you need to speed up something in the absolutely cleanest way possible?
what do you use when you need to speed up something in the absolutely cleanest way possible?
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- KVRAF
- 3008 posts since 2 May, 2006 from Liquor store
I haven't found anything that works right yet. I tried Melodyne UNO and didn't like it. Live has a feature where you can select "Tones" when warping a sample. From here you can set the "grain" size so that there is as clean a sound as possible. GVST makes a lofi Grain plug but THIS is more of what you are looking for.
As to how well it works, i haven't used it yet but give it a shot.
As to how well it works, i haven't used it yet but give it a shot.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 69 posts since 10 Nov, 2004
yeah i have used live as well - but it artifacts are still evident. gsnap looks more like pitch correction a la autotune which is not what i am going for ..i need pitch to remain same and tempo to increase from 84 to 100. unfortunately the vocal part is very delicate and has some intricate nuances that really sound warbley when tempo is increased via one of these algs.
anyone know if mpex2 is about the best you can get?
anyone know if mpex2 is about the best you can get?
- KVRAF
- 16890 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
If all else fails, you can try to cut up the vocal track in short snippets of one syllable only. Hard labour, but you have total control and apart from the cutting there are no artefacts.
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- KVRist
- 234 posts since 30 Oct, 2004 from Greece
I tried a lot of times with different apps to perform this task but...
The only workable enough was to chope all samples to a word then rebuild all the vocal track from the begining to the tempo i want.
Hint: with these way some times you have to use algos again because an "heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy" cannot be synced to beat with the best result so you MUST have great pation to perform this task
ps: sry for bad english.
The only workable enough was to chope all samples to a word then rebuild all the vocal track from the begining to the tempo i want.
Hint: with these way some times you have to use algos again because an "heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy" cannot be synced to beat with the best result so you MUST have great pation to perform this task
ps: sry for bad english.
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
What about using Audio Quantize in Cubase? Seeing as your speeding up instead of slowing down, this could work fairly well. This would be like BertKoor's solution, but would be happening all inside Cubase, in realtime.
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- KVRist
- 46 posts since 12 May, 2006
You could cut up the vocal audio and match the tempo to the syllables. I have done that before successfully, but it takes time. Better to retrack if you can. In my case, I could not.
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- KVRist
- 34 posts since 15 May, 2006
I've found that, if you're willing to put in the labor, and tweak the parameters on a blob-by-blob basis, Melodyne is capable of stunningly convincing results despite dramatic shifts in pitch and tempo.
