Host Wars 2006: The Fall Classic

[Chuck E. Jesus]

for audio editing might as well just use it's external audio option... i use adobe audition and its awesome to export a clip out to it and edit it destructively etc

RONC

that's actually a very good idea...perhaps a bit of a pain in the ass, but it's worth a try...

[HanafiH]

Muuhahaha.

I wish.

[bduffy]

I would think that for a former Pro Tools user, that Nuendo/Cubase would be a logical choice. When Nuendo 1.0 came out, it was obvious that it was trying to be similar to Pro Tools, but a bit more modern. As someone that learned on Pro Tools, I found Nuendo easy to understand.

Of course, the knobs at Steinberg don't provide demos, so you'd have to take my word for it. You'd probably want to be checking out SONAR 6; that's getting quite impressive now.

[Chuck E. Jesus]

I would think that for a former Pro Tools user, that Nuendo/Cubase would be a logical choice. When Nuendo 1.0 came out, it was obvious that it was trying to be similar to Pro Tools, but a bit more modern. As someone that learned on Pro Tools, I found Nuendo easy to understand.

Of course, the knobs at Steinberg don't provide demos, so you'd have to take my word for it. You'd probably want to be checking out SONAR 6; that's getting quite impressive now.

one word: $$$$$$$


i tried the cubase lite or whatever it's called that came with my emu card and it didn't care for it...i actually like T2 ok for the easy setup, but there are certain little bits that bug me even beyond editing...

i have to admit, Sonar looks very tempting...i'd love to try out the Variphrase stuff and the Lexi verb (although the Tracktion verb is actually quite nice as are the other T2 exclusive FX)

[gsh]

I'm now using reaper plus audition for audio work (I don't use midi much) - have used pt and sonar and logic, but find reaper and audition quicker/easier

[bduffy]

I would think that for a former Pro Tools user, that Nuendo/Cubase would be a logical choice. When Nuendo 1.0 came out, it was obvious that it was trying to be similar to Pro Tools, but a bit more modern. As someone that learned on Pro Tools, I found Nuendo easy to understand.

Of course, the knobs at Steinberg don't provide demos, so you'd have to take my word for it. You'd probably want to be checking out SONAR 6; that's getting quite impressive now.

one word: $$$$$$$


i tried the cubase lite or whatever it's called that came with my emu card and it didn't care for it...i actually like T2 ok for the easy setup, but there are certain little bits that bug me even beyond editing...

i have to admit, Sonar looks very tempting...i'd love to try out the Variphrase stuff and the Lexi verb (although the Tracktion verb is actually quite nice as are the other T2 exclusive FX)

Yeah, can't argue with that! I'm only using Cubase because I had to learn Nuendo at work, and I was able to upgrade from the VST32 we had there, and it took me 2 years to upgrade to SX 3! Mind you - isn't SONAR getting rather pricey these days?

T2 is definitely a cool program, and check out that Reaper for sure. Quite the beast for next-to-nothing.

[BONES]

for audio editing might as well just use it's external audio option... i use adobe audition and its awesome to export a clip out to it and edit it destructively etc

that's actually a very good idea...perhaps a bit of a pain in the ass, but it's worth a try...

One of the really cool things about ORION [and yes, there are many] is that it allows you to link your audio editor of choice into the Playlist. So you just right-click on an audio clip, choose "Edit" and it launches your application of choice. Its great because every time you go back to ORION it automagically reloads the file so you can go back and forth with ease. To me that make much more sense that reinventing the wheel by having some half-arsed editor built-in.

[Chuck E. Jesus]

for audio editing might as well just use it's external audio option... i use adobe audition and its awesome to export a clip out to it and edit it destructively etc

that's actually a very good idea...perhaps a bit of a pain in the ass, but it's worth a try...

One of the really cool things about ORION [and yes, there are many] is that it allows you to link your audio editor of choice into the Playlist. So you just right-click on an audio clip, choose "Edit" and it launches your application of choice. Its great because every time you go back to ORION it automagically reloads the file so you can go back and forth with ease. To me that make much more sense that reinventing the wheel by having some half-arsed editor built-in.

you've been singing the praises of Orion for so long, i really should give it a look see...

[BONES]

It has a very different approach. If you are used to the hardware world it should make perfect sense from the get-go, otherwise it may require some adjustment. I think the trick is to go with the flow rather than try to get it to work the way you want. That includes working with patterns - don't poo-poo it without thinking it through - its more flexible than you might think, given that patterns can be 9,999 notes long. Think of it more as a MIDI clip database.

[nixnutz]

i'm having host envy and confusion..

..i came up with Protools/Studio Vision/Sample Cell and i'm stil used to the old cut & paste style...

I used to use Vision myself and I liked it very much, but Opcode was killed before it ever got VST support, so I'm wondering what you've been using for a sequencer for the past 6 years?

[zeoy]

Why don't you try to fill what's missing and stick with T since you're already familiar with it and you basically like it?
For example: do you need better destructive editing? buy a dedicated wave editor and make it your default wave editor in T. ctrl+w IIRC is your friend. No need to reinsert the edited audio too. (I've seen it working like a charm with Wavelab so some lite edition of it would be fine)

just my 0.02 Euros

[Rajah]

Two words, Ableton Live.

Maybe you should turn this thread into a POLL.

[Radek]

Traction and Ableton have best users interfaces. Looking at them is so refreshing comparably to Cubase or Sonar. EnergyXT is quite interesting as well thought somewhat weird at first. Now I'm trying Phrazor.

[fandango]

Hehe, but I guess that's what makes Muff Wiggler's stickied post so interesting. I used to use Tracktion but switched to Sonar because I prefered the workflow and I'm loving it. Tracktion, Live, Sonar, etc. It's all good, at the end of the day.

[Jason Brian Merrill]

for audio editing might as well just use it's external audio option... i use adobe audition and its awesome to export a clip out to it and edit it destructively etc

that's actually a very good idea...perhaps a bit of a pain in the ass, but it's worth a try...

One of the really cool things about ORION [and yes, there are many] is that it allows you to link your audio editor of choice into the Playlist. So you just right-click on an audio clip, choose "Edit" and it launches your application of choice. Its great because every time you go back to ORION it automagically reloads the file so you can go back and forth with ease. To me that make much more sense that reinventing the wheel by having some half-arsed editor built-in.

I guess i thought this is how MOST hosts dealt with external audio editors.