can someone tell me if it exists?
it could be useful in live performances because i process all voices with vsts...
thanks
anti feedback vst - live
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- KVRist
- 443 posts since 13 Feb, 2006
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- KVRAF
- 16891 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
VST to kill feedback? Not that I know of...
With hardware there are several measurements you can take to prevent feedback:
* Use super-cardioid (directional sensitive) microphones, like the Shure SM-58
* Use good quality stage monitors, properly set up (into the face of people on stage, 180 degrees of where the mic points)
* Insert a 32-band graphical EQ in the stage monitoring signal path
* Take some time at the soundcheck to kill feedback. Gently increase the level of a mic until feedback occurs, and kill that a bit (either with the graphical EQ or the channel EQ)
With good equipment and a proper soundcheck procedure you should be able to get absurd levels on stage without feedback.
But the thing is that the most recent 32-band graphical EQ of Behringer comes with the feedback killing feature. And it's not really expensive.
With hardware there are several measurements you can take to prevent feedback:
* Use super-cardioid (directional sensitive) microphones, like the Shure SM-58
* Use good quality stage monitors, properly set up (into the face of people on stage, 180 degrees of where the mic points)
* Insert a 32-band graphical EQ in the stage monitoring signal path
* Take some time at the soundcheck to kill feedback. Gently increase the level of a mic until feedback occurs, and kill that a bit (either with the graphical EQ or the channel EQ)
With good equipment and a proper soundcheck procedure you should be able to get absurd levels on stage without feedback.
But the thing is that the most recent 32-band graphical EQ of Behringer comes with the feedback killing feature. And it's not really expensive.
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- KVRAF
- 10286 posts since 17 Sep, 2004 from Austin, TX
I know those feedback-preventing measures.
I don't have the slightest idea what a hardware feedback killer would do, though. Spectral peak detection and mashing comes to mind for a VST, though.
Sudden gain at 13 khz? Squish!
I don't have the slightest idea what a hardware feedback killer would do, though. Spectral peak detection and mashing comes to mind for a VST, though.
Sudden gain at 13 khz? Squish!
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- KVRist
- 98 posts since 14 Mar, 2006 from Buffalo, NY USA
How about using a noise gate? They work awesome for guitar anyway. They cut off the signal if it doesnt reach your desired volume.
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- Suspended
- 17889 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
The obvious solution is a Behringer SHARK, it has teh Feddback Destroyer circuit and is about the size of a stomp-box. It also have a compressor/limiter and noise gate so it is incredibly effective at killing feedback on stage, even for an idiot like me who sings through a distortion pedal.
For the uninitiated, Behringer's Feedback Destroyer is a series of 12 very, very narrow notch filters that scan the audio for huge peaks, lock onto them and notch them away. They are very dynamic so when filter 12 gets used, filter 1 starts scanning again. I usually never get more than 8 locked to get rid of all my feedback problems. For me it means that if I don't get time to soundcheck I still know that I can get on stage and start wailing without having to worry.
For the uninitiated, Behringer's Feedback Destroyer is a series of 12 very, very narrow notch filters that scan the audio for huge peaks, lock onto them and notch them away. They are very dynamic so when filter 12 gets used, filter 1 starts scanning again. I usually never get more than 8 locked to get rid of all my feedback problems. For me it means that if I don't get time to soundcheck I still know that I can get on stage and start wailing without having to worry.
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- KVRAF
- 16154 posts since 2 Dec, 2003 from Nashville, TN
I have a Behringer Shark. I haven't used it for a LONG time. It's still hooked up, but I just havne't used it lately.
I'm debating whether or not I want to get rid of it. It's kind of like a little swiss army knife, and even includes a preamp and phantom power, on top of other things.
I really haven't used it in a long time, but not because it isn't nifty.
Decisions, decisions!
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I'm debating whether or not I want to get rid of it. It's kind of like a little swiss army knife, and even includes a preamp and phantom power, on top of other things.
I really haven't used it in a long time, but not because it isn't nifty.
Decisions, decisions!
Brent
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- KVRAF
- 10286 posts since 17 Sep, 2004 from Austin, TX
This is more for mics than guitars.Rickvallone wrote:How about using a noise gate? They work awesome for guitar anyway. They cut off the signal if it doesnt reach your desired volume.
Being a sax player and singer with a good 4" thick sternum bone playing near Godzilla-loud drums and guitars and using delays and compressors and stuff I am more of a feedback-generating machine than a music-making human
That thing sounds really, really, really damned useful, BONES.
Due to my desire to keep everything in my PC I may try to emulate one somehow, which I doubt will work, and then I'll just make my analog cohorts get one whenever they're around making the sound of 90 space shuttles taking off.
Damned 4-channel '65 Marshal.
Things more of a demolition tool than an amp.
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- KVRist
- 338 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Quebec Canada
You have big problem here my friend............
Cut the feedback with a parametric eq (The frequencies who feedback are the one who are the stronger in DB in the live environement, so you want to cut it with EQ) don't let a crappy machine cut it for you...
Use a 31 band EQ on the output to cut a feedback on the fly of course.
Cut the feedback with a parametric eq (The frequencies who feedback are the one who are the stronger in DB in the live environement, so you want to cut it with EQ) don't let a crappy machine cut it for you...
Use a 31 band EQ on the output to cut a feedback on the fly of course.
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- KVRist
- 73 posts since 26 Jul, 2004 from UK It smells funny.
Funny how life is. This thread is how to kill feedback, two threads up some guy is asking how to get it!
Just a random suggestion; get a line6 variax. No pickup = no magnet = no feedback...
Just a random suggestion; get a line6 variax. No pickup = no magnet = no feedback...
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- KVRAF
- 16891 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Rather random indeed, since I don't think this guy has a problem with his guitar (although you never know...)musicL wrote:Just a random suggestion; get a line6 variax. No pickup = no magnet = no feedback...
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- KVRist
- 73 posts since 26 Jul, 2004 from UK It smells funny.
ah stupid me! i skim read the thread and saw the name guitar in here somewhere..
Then instead my first suggestion is try cut it with EQ by sweeping freq until you find the offender. If not a feedback suppresser which does the above automatically with a few extra bells and whistles. The Behringer SHARK is mentioned above.
Then instead my first suggestion is try cut it with EQ by sweeping freq until you find the offender. If not a feedback suppresser which does the above automatically with a few extra bells and whistles. The Behringer SHARK is mentioned above.
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- KVRist
- 338 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Quebec Canada
The point is.....If a frequency feedback, its cause the area around the frequencies are to hi on the spectre.
On a PA properly tune, if a feedback come its defiantly cause you haven't tune the vocal properly(in normal situation).
The point is, do not let a a crappy berhinger machine notch 6 or 8 frequencies and degrade your vocal sound when you can use a gentle ''good'' eq with the proper 'Q' factor to do the proper correction.
.......You don't need a feedback killer.....
so if you need it then you need to learn how to tune a PA...or mix in live environment!!..........only good for conference and that kind of &%$#
On a PA properly tune, if a feedback come its defiantly cause you haven't tune the vocal properly(in normal situation).
The point is, do not let a a crappy berhinger machine notch 6 or 8 frequencies and degrade your vocal sound when you can use a gentle ''good'' eq with the proper 'Q' factor to do the proper correction.
.......You don't need a feedback killer.....
so if you need it then you need to learn how to tune a PA...or mix in live environment!!..........only good for conference and that kind of &%$#
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- KVRAF
- 10286 posts since 17 Sep, 2004 from Austin, TX
I know how to, and my music partners are even more knowledgable, about notching out feedback.
And with me it just doesn't work.
The sounds and effects I like to use, and the hideously loud rock people that won't learn to turn shit down, always results in massive feedback spikes that are going to make me deaf.
Thus far my solution has been to refuse to play with them anymore
f**k rock people - I've got a VST host that does what I want and a PC that can almost handle it.
And with me it just doesn't work.
The sounds and effects I like to use, and the hideously loud rock people that won't learn to turn shit down, always results in massive feedback spikes that are going to make me deaf.
Thus far my solution has been to refuse to play with them anymore
f**k rock people - I've got a VST host that does what I want and a PC that can almost handle it.