KVR Audio

polyslax · Post by **polyslax** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:30 am

Eliosound wrote:Maybe a KVR group buy would be a good solution to get AirEQ with a reduced price.. If some people are interested here, obviously.

Fabrice,
Eliosound

So... who's interested, aside from me?

Arksun · Post by **Arksun** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:10 am

I might be interested, depends what the saving will be

polyslax · Post by **polyslax** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:14 pm

Wow, ok, I'll take that as a big NO!

Arksun · Post by **Arksun** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:21 pm

polyslax wrote:Wow, ok, I'll take that as a big NO!

Perhaps if the terms of the group buy and the relative savings to number of people was posted up, it might drum up some more interest

polyslax · Post by **polyslax** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:45 pm

Arksun wrote:
polyslax wrote:Wow, ok, I'll take that as a big NO!
Perhaps if the terms of the group buy and the relative savings to number of people was posted up, it might drum up some more interest

True enough.

Don't know if Fabrice wants to organize anything, lay out the ground rules etc?

Eiosis · Post by **Eiosis** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:51 pm

Sorry for the late reply, these times are very busy..

I'm not very familiar with group buys here, but I think I have to post the conditions in the market place in KVR forums. I'll do in the very next days, trust me !
Please let me know in PM is someone have particular advices about group buys, from other experiences here, etc..

Thanks !

Fabrice,
Eliosound

joachime · Post by **joachime** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:07 pm

Tried the plugin today and it sounds great! Easy to work with aswell. I'm definately interested in a group buy!

smart · Post by **smart** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:12 pm

The way I see Group Buys, is they allow you to get a big installation of users (which help you improve your product and spread the word), and a nice amount of sales, but they sometimes can lower the percieved value of your product if you go too crazy and do it too often.

I say go for it when you launch a new product, or after interest is starting to wear thin (towards the end of a 1.x lifecycle but a little ways before a 2.x).

This might be a good time for you, especially if you have to change your company name. You could launch the group buy as a "new company name celebration sale" or something similar.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:25 pm

Sascha Franck wrote:You should rethink the dongle decision.
There's no way I'd ever get a dongled EQ. And there's a whole lot of folks thinking the same.

I agree. Dongle = No Sale.

You have a right to use any copy protection scheme you choose and the customer has a right to boycott any scheme the deem intrusive.

Eiosis · Post by **Eiosis** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:17 pm

smart wrote:The way I see Group Buys, is they allow you to get a big installation of users (which help you improve your product and spread the word), and a nice amount of sales, but they sometimes can lower the percieved value of your product if you go too crazy and do it too often.
I say go for it when you launch a new product, or after interest is starting to wear thin (towards the end of a 1.x lifecycle but a little ways before a 2.x).

Yes I think that a group buy is mainly interesting for a product launch, and that it is a great opportunity for some customers who mainly getting information on the internet.
That is why it seems to be a good period to do this for AirEQ, and I think that a single group buy per product is also a good choice.

smart wrote:This might be a good time for you, especially if you have to change your company name. You could launch the group buy as a "new company name celebration sale" or something similar.

I hope and I think that we will not have to change our company name..

Anyway, we could name this group buy : "AES group buy", for the AES convention in early October in San Francisco..

So this will be the only one for AirEQ and we'll launch it in a few days.
I'll post the conditions very soon, keep reading this thread !

Fabrice,
Eliosound

polyslax · Post by **polyslax** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:45 am

Eliosound wrote:So this will be the only one for AirEQ and we'll launch it in a few days.
I'll post the conditions very soon, keep reading this thread !

Fabrice,
Eliosound

Very cool, thanks for doing this Fabrice!

Arksun · Post by **Arksun** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:18 pm

Eliosound wrote:
smart wrote:The way I see Group Buys, is they allow you to get a big installation of users (which help you improve your product and spread the word), and a nice amount of sales, but they sometimes can lower the percieved value of your product if you go too crazy and do it too often.
I say go for it when you launch a new product, or after interest is starting to wear thin (towards the end of a 1.x lifecycle but a little ways before a 2.x).
Yes I think that a group buy is mainly interesting for a product launch, and that it is a great opportunity for some customers who mainly getting information on the internet.
That is why it seems to be a good period to do this for AirEQ, and I think that a single group buy per product is also a good choice.

smart wrote:This might be a good time for you, especially if you have to change your company name. You could launch the group buy as a "new company name celebration sale" or something similar.
I hope and I think that we will not have to change our company name..
Anyway, we could name this group buy : "AES group buy", for the AES convention in early October in San Francisco..
So this will be the only one for AirEQ and we'll launch it in a few days.
I'll post the conditions very soon, keep reading this thread !

Fabrice,
Eliosound

If you're after a reference point, look at the group buy spec on this ohmboyz one:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... =group+buy

Eiosis · Post by **Eiosis** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:24 pm

Arksun wrote:If you're after a reference point, look at the group buy spec on this ohmboyz one:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... =group+buy

Yes thanks ! I had already saw and carefully read this thread, and it gaves me a good idea of what could be the specs of a group buy.
I have now to set up all the needed things to be ready at the end of the next week I think.. So much work at the moment !!

Fabrice,
Eliosound

xylyx · Post by **xylyx** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:37 pm

Teksonik wrote:
Sascha Franck wrote:You should rethink the dongle decision.
There's no way I'd ever get a dongled EQ. And there's a whole lot of folks thinking the same.
I agree. Dongle = No Sale. You have a right to use any copy protection scheme you choose and the customer has a right to boycott any scheme the deem intrusive.

I would have been very interested in this plugin, especially if there was a good price available via a group buy (the review I read in Future Music was very positive too)...unfortunately, the dongle kills it for me, as my computer is a dongle-free zone and shall remain so.

Arksun · Post by **Arksun** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:05 pm

Can someone explain to me why dongles are a bad thing?. You plug it in, keep it there and it works.

Cubase SX3 works fine. I can pull the dongle out and plug it into a laptop if i want. Where's the prob?

The worst of the copy protections I think are the ones you have to re-authorize over the internet from time to time, cause if the sites down or you're not on the internet you're screwed. with a dongle with activation code on it, thats not an issue.

I've never had a problem with my dongle soo, I don't understand the animosity some people have against it.

It could be argued too much development cost is wasted implementing a dongle, fair enough, but once the products made and assuming everyone agrees its a fair price for the quality of the product, seriously whats the problem?!?

Eiosis AirEQ v1.3