Sonic Reality

flynn · Post by **flynn** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:21 am

I'm pleased to see the R.A.W Gold Edition is up for pre ordering

http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=1482

But as an owner of R.A.W it seems a bit redundant to get the R.A.W again. Will there be a bundle for the 15 Paks only?
(or some sort of upgrade

)

EF

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:12 pm

Yes, RAW Universal Groove Kit owners can upgrade to the Gold Edition (minus the 4 RAW discs) for $549. MSRP (so less than that depending on if you are a silver, gold or platinum member on esoundz)

The funny thing is that the collection seems endless but then when it comes down to it when you are working within a certain style it is really NICE to have tons of options. The normal MSRP of all of the products together would be $249 (RAW) plus $99 each for 15 titles = $1,750. So, we decided to save the user around 60% off for getting all of them at once (kind of like IK's Total Bundles). That way you could decide while you are in the music making process what sounds you need instead of in the library purchasing process.

Personally I prefer it that way as a user myself... but then as the one selling it I WOULD say that wouldn't I?

It all depends on your budget really. If you can afford it, go for the gold! Same thing with the Sonic Refills. We've sold more Sonic Refill Golds than any one single refill on www.esoundz.com so that tells you right there the mind set of most of our customers. The "Power Set Up" seems to be very popular which is why we're offering them.

flynn · Post by **flynn** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:14 pm

That's great Squids

I totally agree with you. If I'm able to get more than I need for less, it opens up unknown desires for other sounds/genres than I thought I wanted

I'm a "want it all" kind of guy, so "everything bundles" suits me well

I assume the upgrade item will be up next week then.

EF

woodie · Post by **woodie** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:54 pm

yo squids - quick question - are these compatible with Stylus RMX?

When importing REX2 files into RMX, the "converter" has a some restrictions to importing REX/REX2 files, so don't know if this R.A.W series is fully-compatible with importing into RMX.

Thanks...

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:18 pm

flynn wrote:That's great Squids
I totally agree with you. If I'm able to get more than I need for less, it opens up unknown desires for other sounds/genres than I thought I wanted

I'm a "want it all" kind of guy, so "everything bundles" suits me well

I assume the upgrade item will be up next week then.

EF

Not sure when/if we will have an official product page for the upgrade item but you can actually pre-order it now with jorge@esoundz.com

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:21 pm

holymoly wrote:yo squids - quick question - are these compatible with Stylus RMX?

When importing REX2 files into RMX, the "converter" has a some restrictions to importing REX/REX2 files, so don't know if this R.A.W series is fully-compatible with importing into RMX.

Thanks...

Believe it or not I actually went over the details of this with Eric and Glenn from Spectrasonics to make sure we got that right! So, yeah, it was actually designed with Stylus RMX in mind as one of the MAIN formats to hit besides the usual Reason, Kontakt etc. The other product we wanted to hit well for expanded content was Abelton Live. They import really well into Live as well.

But, anyway, each folder is done with the drag and drop compliance of Stylus RMX where it has 61 or less files in it and the hierarchy is only one folder deep. ALL of the RAW and Rex Pak products are done this way.

woodie · Post by **woodie** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:36 pm

shoot, squids! couldn't ask for a better answer than that!

so hey....OK, you've probably already been asked this many times over, but I'll ask anyways

- I'm a bit confused what the difference is between Sonic Reality & Esoundz. Without having totally roam both sites...they look to be practically offering the same stuff, so appreciate if you could give me the low-down on both of those sites you're associated with.

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:30 am

holymoly wrote:shoot, squids! couldn't ask for a better answer than that!

so hey....OK, you've probably already been asked this many times over, but I'll ask anyways - I'm a bit confused what the difference is between Sonic Reality & Esoundz. Without having totally roam both sites...they look to be practically offering the same stuff, so appreciate if you could give me the low-down on both of those sites you're associated with.

That's easy. Sonic Reality is a sound development company, the "manufacturer" of the sounds. www.esoundz.com is just an online webstore. I am a partner in both but the reason esoundz existed in the first place was so there was at least one retail outlet for ALL Sonic Reality products to be in stock since the SR site doesn't sell direct (just tells you to go to esoundz or any other SR dealer). Unfortunately, even with as many retailers as there are carrying SR products there isn't any other store on the planet that carries ALL of the Sonic Reality products besides esoundz (there's quite a lot and that's not even counting the thousands of DOWNLOADABLE products which is more and more becoming esoundz MAIN focus in the future).

dgkenney · Post by **dgkenney** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:12 pm

Squids wrote: The other product we wanted to hit well for expanded content was Abelton Live. They import really well into Live as well.

You are talking about the WAV editions, correct? (Which I can confirm do in fact work well within Live

) AFAIK, Live doesn't support REX at this time. Or did I miss something.

Dan

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:18 pm

dgkenney wrote:
Squids wrote: The other product we wanted to hit well for expanded content was Abelton Live. They import really well into Live as well.

You are talking about the WAV editions, correct? (Which I can confirm do in fact work well within Live ) AFAIK, Live doesn't support REX at this time. Or did I miss something.

Dan

The R.A.W. Gold Edition and individual R.A.W. Style Paks come with Rex, Apple Loops and Waves (that work with Live). So, I was referring to that.

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:20 pm

Squids wrote:
holymoly wrote:yo squids - quick question - are these compatible with Stylus RMX?

When importing REX2 files into RMX, the "converter" has a some restrictions to importing REX/REX2 files, so don't know if this R.A.W series is fully-compatible with importing into RMX.

Thanks...
Believe it or not I actually went over the details of this with Eric and Glenn from Spectrasonics to make sure we got that right! So, yeah, it was actually designed with Stylus RMX in mind as one of the MAIN formats to hit besides the usual Reason, Kontakt etc. The other product we wanted to hit well for expanded content was Abelton Live. They import really well into Live as well.

But, anyway, each folder is done with the drag and drop compliance of Stylus RMX where it has 61 or less files in it and the hierarchy is only one folder deep. ALL of the RAW and Rex Pak products are done this way.

Given that Sonik Reality worked closely with Spectrasonics on RAW; for those of us without Stylus RMX, how about an opportunity to buy it through eSoundz at a really good price?

or a eSoundz Stylus RMX Group Buy (or did I miss that?)

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:32 pm

Well I wouldn't say we worked with closely (or at all) with Spectrasonics on these. We simply both recognized that with it open to reading Rexes their "rompler" has sort of became an open-ended sample player and since it is popular it makes sense for third party support. Ironically they used to be more of a third party sound developer themselves (still are in terms of back catalog and we share the same distributor ILIO for our back catalog ironically).

So, given that third party companies were going to do it anyway there's no reason not to help Squids know the do's and don'ts which will save everyone the headache of support calls (they don't want "how do I get my SR pak to work in Stylus RMX" any more than we do if it can be helped. So, it's easy drag and drop in terms of the way it is organized that's all. No biggie.

But, the RAW Style Paks and RAW Universal Groove Kit and Gold Edition are UNIVERSAL format products that work with just about EVERYTHING. So, there's no extra break for non-Stylus users because that doesn't really make any sense. It's for everyone whether you use Stylus RMX, Reason, Live, Apple Soundtrack or Garageband etc etc.

Not sure about a group buy for a while or ever because it is a retail product that we want to push through the stores. I will say though that the value for money is great on www.esoundz.com and other stores that will be carrying them!

beergeek · Post by **beergeek** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:01 pm

Squids, I think DarkStar was looking to buy Stylus RMX from eSoundz with a RAW owners discount

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:27 pm

beergeek wrote:Squids, I think DarkStar was looking to buy Stylus RMX from eSoundz with a RAW owners discount

Oh I see. I don't think Spectrasonics wants esoundz to be a dealer to be honest. Otherwise I wouldn't mind carrying it personally.

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:53 pm

True, I was. Ah well.