I just got done watching a live video. I've actually never seen them live. I know one of the guys in the band and actually did programming for him/them. But, I've never seen a show (especially with Hodgson). Crime of the Century, Even in the Quietest Moments and Breakfast in America are really top albums. Great piano sounds, harmonica, guitars, drums, vocals, sax... catchy tunes, great chord changes, eclectic, unique sounding... I think they could be one of the most under-rated bands from that era.
What do you think? My friend who is in the band is Mark Hart. I worked with him years ago with Crowded House and Sam Phillips. As much as I love him (he is really cool and very talented) I really wish Roger Hodgson would just get back with them and do a tour. (also Roger Waters with Pink Floyd... and David Gilmour's new record sounds more like Pink Floyd than his last two Pink Floyd records).
OT: Supertramp, Pink Floyd, Genesis and ...
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
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- KVRian
- 620 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from france
hello squids, why do do you say that Supertramp is an under-rated band ? It's certainly the most well known "english" band afer The Beatles, The Rolling Stones and Pink Floyd.
you are right, the Supertramp sound is amazing.
You know Mark Hart ? Cool ! I have seen him with Supertramp at a concert here in France.
It was a great moment. I have also seen Roger Hodgson live here in Savoie, the region of France where I live. He had just a piano and a guitar, but it was a very great moment, it's a very cool and nice guy !
I really love the new record of David Gilmour, it's beautiful and mystic. But I have never seen Pink Floyd live, what a pity !
Well I'm not really a fan of Supertramp nor Pink Floyd, but these are bands that count a lot for me. My favourite bands are definitively Genesis and Yes.
IMHO, an example of an under-rated band can be Saga. Some of their records are magic, but who remember them nowadays ?
you are right, the Supertramp sound is amazing.
You know Mark Hart ? Cool ! I have seen him with Supertramp at a concert here in France.
It was a great moment. I have also seen Roger Hodgson live here in Savoie, the region of France where I live. He had just a piano and a guitar, but it was a very great moment, it's a very cool and nice guy !
I really love the new record of David Gilmour, it's beautiful and mystic. But I have never seen Pink Floyd live, what a pity !
Well I'm not really a fan of Supertramp nor Pink Floyd, but these are bands that count a lot for me. My favourite bands are definitively Genesis and Yes.
IMHO, an example of an under-rated band can be Saga. Some of their records are magic, but who remember them nowadays ?
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- KVRAF
- 3864 posts since 29 Feb, 2004
Don't really care for Supertramp except for "Crime", which really is one of the all-time best albums in that genre.
But having lived with Floyd's music ever since "Dark Side" (I was 12 back then) I have to say it's a good thing they split back then, for me "The Wall" (although having some highlights) and most of all "Final Cut" are the worst albums they ever did.
C'mon, flame me !
I enjoy the newer stuff a lot, too, and yes,
"On An Island" is pure Floyd.
When Gilmour's first solo album came out back in '78, a journalist asked him why it was so close to Floyd's style. Dave replied :" What did you expect ? I'm part of that band, too !"
Cheers, susiwong
But having lived with Floyd's music ever since "Dark Side" (I was 12 back then) I have to say it's a good thing they split back then, for me "The Wall" (although having some highlights) and most of all "Final Cut" are the worst albums they ever did.
C'mon, flame me !
I enjoy the newer stuff a lot, too, and yes,
"On An Island" is pure Floyd.
When Gilmour's first solo album came out back in '78, a journalist asked him why it was so close to Floyd's style. Dave replied :" What did you expect ? I'm part of that band, too !"
Cheers, susiwong
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- KVRAF
- 2028 posts since 18 Mar, 2004 from New York, N.Y.
Funny you mention Saga...when Worlds Apart came out I could not stop playing "On the Loose" and "No Stranger"...anyone who loves good keyboard MUST hear the intro to "No Stranger", it's full of lovely Moog and PPG sounds...I only found out recently that they have been putting out new material ever since, but have not been pushing it or playing in the U.S...pquenin wrote:hello squids, why do do you say that Supertramp is an under-rated band ? It's certainly the most well known "english" band afer The Beatles, The Rolling Stones and Pink Floyd.
you are right, the Supertramp sound is amazing.
You know Mark Hart ? Cool ! I have seen him with Supertramp at a concert here in France.
It was a great moment. I have also seen Roger Hodgson live here in Savoie, the region of France where I live. He had just a piano and a guitar, but it was a very great moment, it's a very cool and nice guy !
I really love the new record of David Gilmour, it's beautiful and mystic. But I have never seen Pink Floyd live, what a pity !
Well I'm not really a fan of Supertramp nor Pink Floyd, but these are bands that count a lot for me. My favourite bands are definitively Genesis and Yes.
IMHO, an example of an under-rated band can be Saga. Some of their records are magic, but who remember them nowadays ?
Back to the topic, Supertramp was one of my first favorite bands...Logical Song, Breakfast in America...I aspire to get that kind of sound anytime I play a Rhodes (or Lounge Lizard
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- KVRian
- 943 posts since 15 Mar, 2005
2 of my favourite bands ever.
i love all supertramp albums, timeless for me. i think they are perhaps quite underrated nowadays, since i never hear of them anywhere. but in their time i think they were v big though not as celebrites.
btw 'breakfast in america' sold over 15 million.
also there are some live and studio supertramp vids on youtube:
kinda wierd, i went to the same school as roger.
i love all supertramp albums, timeless for me. i think they are perhaps quite underrated nowadays, since i never hear of them anywhere. but in their time i think they were v big though not as celebrites.
sums it up.wiki wrote:it was remarked at the height of their popularity that supertramp the best-selling group in the world whose members could walk down any street and not be recognised.
btw 'breakfast in america' sold over 15 million.
also there are some live and studio supertramp vids on youtube:
kinda wierd, i went to the same school as roger.
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- KVRian
- 1219 posts since 12 Aug, 2002
Interesting bit of trivia...
Was chatting with John Helliwell once about the "Even In The Quietest Moments" record. I admire the production on that record, as well as the songs etc...real nice overall vibe. I also think the record jacket artwork is brilliant, so I asked him if it had any particular significance. "Well mate, what do you think that music score on the piano might be?" I just looked at him...I had always assumed it would be a bit of a transcription from "Fools Overture" since it was titled as such. Could not have been more mistaken.
"Star Spangled Banner" he says with a grin and a wink.
Top bit of cheek, that.
Was chatting with John Helliwell once about the "Even In The Quietest Moments" record. I admire the production on that record, as well as the songs etc...real nice overall vibe. I also think the record jacket artwork is brilliant, so I asked him if it had any particular significance. "Well mate, what do you think that music score on the piano might be?" I just looked at him...I had always assumed it would be a bit of a transcription from "Fools Overture" since it was titled as such. Could not have been more mistaken.
"Star Spangled Banner" he says with a grin and a wink.
Top bit of cheek, that.
To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders - Lao Tzu
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- Topic Starter
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Oh that's cool, I will have to check that out.
I say under-rated mostly because I guess over here in the States they don't get as much attention as other bands of the era. I mean they do get radio play on classic rock stations but there's just less mention of them in general (considering how great they were).
Yeah, I've known Mark for a long time but haven't spoken to him in years (not since Crowded House broke up... he was pretty bummed about that). I toured with him on the WOMAD festival and he's the one who hired me to work on a Ringo Starr record with Phil Ramone and other cool gigs like that. Back then some keyboardists would rely on my for custom sampling and programming. Now they just buy Sonic Reality products! lol (actually I'm not kidding)
I am putting together photos, video and audio clips as well as a blog (eventually) on a few places so people can see some of my escapades with classic rock band members and other things that interest me personally that relate to SR in some way or another. The first place we're putting that stuff is on myspace. Go to www.myspace.com/sonicreality to check out a few picks from sessions and my visit to Genesis' studio earlier this year. I literally JUST bothered to put something on that page! (sitting there for months... no friends yet so feel free to add it!) But, we'll be posting some videos on You Tube and blog it up a bit too...
Anyway, back to this thread... I really like the new David Gilmour album a lot. I like it better than the last 2 Pink Floyd albums. It's more moody and intimate... more acoustic (I have always liked that side of Floyd... Fearless, Wish You Were Hear, Dogs etc.).
I say under-rated mostly because I guess over here in the States they don't get as much attention as other bands of the era. I mean they do get radio play on classic rock stations but there's just less mention of them in general (considering how great they were).
Yeah, I've known Mark for a long time but haven't spoken to him in years (not since Crowded House broke up... he was pretty bummed about that). I toured with him on the WOMAD festival and he's the one who hired me to work on a Ringo Starr record with Phil Ramone and other cool gigs like that. Back then some keyboardists would rely on my for custom sampling and programming. Now they just buy Sonic Reality products! lol (actually I'm not kidding)
I am putting together photos, video and audio clips as well as a blog (eventually) on a few places so people can see some of my escapades with classic rock band members and other things that interest me personally that relate to SR in some way or another. The first place we're putting that stuff is on myspace. Go to www.myspace.com/sonicreality to check out a few picks from sessions and my visit to Genesis' studio earlier this year. I literally JUST bothered to put something on that page! (sitting there for months... no friends yet so feel free to add it!) But, we'll be posting some videos on You Tube and blog it up a bit too...
Anyway, back to this thread... I really like the new David Gilmour album a lot. I like it better than the last 2 Pink Floyd albums. It's more moody and intimate... more acoustic (I have always liked that side of Floyd... Fearless, Wish You Were Hear, Dogs etc.).
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- KVRAF
- 2028 posts since 18 Mar, 2004 from New York, N.Y.
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- KVRian
- 830 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Richland Center, Wisconsin
Supertramp,,, what a band!! I saw them at Alpine Valley here in Wisconsin, which is a nice outdoor venue tucked into the hills of the Kettle Moraine. It was one of the most impressive shows I ever saw. It was humorous to see all the disco sucks t-shirts in the crowd. The following week, they were going to have The Cars there, and the crowd booed loudly when they announced it.
I think progressive rock in general has been ingnored. MTV and VH1 never really took up the cause of progressive rock. I remember reading reviews of a lot of progressive bands, and they were considered by the critics to be "pretentious". Liberal causes went out of style. It's too bad. I guess at the end of the day, people are more inclined to join the system than to escape it, and potent observations of the banality of following the crowd, just ring kind of empty to people who seek thrills and want a lot of material things. Could it be that people sold out and became shallow?? Supertramp's music invites people to wake up, look at thier lives, and listen to thier inner voice of reason and conscience. To find peace in nature, find a path with heart for themselves, and be an individual (march to thier own tune). Sadly, that is the path of the disenfranchised, and people are more inclined to conform. When Breakfast in America sold all those copies, there were a lot more people who thought that way. Sigh....
Give a Little Bit still gets a lot of air play.
I'm not sure what explains Floyd's success. They are cut from similar cloth, but Floyd draws huge crowds yet. Yes also has a following. They seem to be the exceptions. Not that I'm complaining,,, at least some of the music of that era is still being enjoyed by the masses.
I'd also like to put in a plug for the Moody Blues, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Kansas, and Alan Parson's Project.
I think progressive rock in general has been ingnored. MTV and VH1 never really took up the cause of progressive rock. I remember reading reviews of a lot of progressive bands, and they were considered by the critics to be "pretentious". Liberal causes went out of style. It's too bad. I guess at the end of the day, people are more inclined to join the system than to escape it, and potent observations of the banality of following the crowd, just ring kind of empty to people who seek thrills and want a lot of material things. Could it be that people sold out and became shallow?? Supertramp's music invites people to wake up, look at thier lives, and listen to thier inner voice of reason and conscience. To find peace in nature, find a path with heart for themselves, and be an individual (march to thier own tune). Sadly, that is the path of the disenfranchised, and people are more inclined to conform. When Breakfast in America sold all those copies, there were a lot more people who thought that way. Sigh....
Give a Little Bit still gets a lot of air play.
I'm not sure what explains Floyd's success. They are cut from similar cloth, but Floyd draws huge crowds yet. Yes also has a following. They seem to be the exceptions. Not that I'm complaining,,, at least some of the music of that era is still being enjoyed by the masses.
I'd also like to put in a plug for the Moody Blues, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Kansas, and Alan Parson's Project.
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
The waitress on the cover of BiA -- she can't walk down the street without being recognized.martian wrote:sums it up.wiki wrote:it was remarked at the height of their popularity that supertramp the best-selling group in the world whose members could walk down any street and not be recognised.
btw 'breakfast in america' sold over 15 million.
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- KVRist
- 62 posts since 11 Apr, 2002 from NC
I just bought PF Pulse DVD this weekend. I am glad the finally put it on DVD.
Actually I really liked The Division Bell but a lot of people didn't...
Jason
Actually I really liked The Division Bell but a lot of people didn't...
Jason
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- Topic Starter
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
You have to understand that If I knew I wouldn't be able to say anyway. I certainly hope there will be like any other Genesis fan. One thing I can say is that Tony Banks IS using SampleTank, Sonik Synth and Miroslav Philharmonik (the Total Workstation bundle) and loves it! I am also programming a "Tony Banks Bank" from Sonik Synth for him. I turned him onto Arturia's plugs as well since there's the Arp and the Prophet. Mike Rutherford uses AmpliTube 2 and Ampeg SVX as well. It has to be one of the biggest perks of being in the soundware business... an "excuse" to visit The Farm! Funny thing was they had no idea what a Genesis geek I was until I was hanging out asking Tony questions and he got all excited that I actually knew what I was talking about, especially his old keyboards which we were discussing quite a bit. It was a lot of fun and he's a really great guy as is Nick Davis their producer/engineer who let me sit in on 5.1 surround sound mixdowns of classic Genesis tunes. In fact, this is the first blog I will do over there on that fresh new myspace page, the story of that visit which was pretty cool! I had intended to do a blog on a more "techy" site but... eh, what the heck. 100 million potential viewers! haha (and I have 1 friend, Tom! Better get crackin' I guess. Add the Squids!!!).jplanet wrote:Squids, any inside info on a possible Genesis reunion?