Any Fruity Loops users here that can also play an instrument

[runagate]

I play a mean set of spoons, too.

Save me. I'm together with your plan.

Rofl. I got to see him play once when I was 16 somewhere near Pike's. I love the hambonin'.

[xander]

@Hink

Ahh! SO maybe THAT'S the difference -- I always just use 'pattern' mode.

[matthewjumps]

some people...

seriosly - audio clips in the playlist in song mode works great for making full songs - even before the betas....why on earth would u only use pattern mode?

[xander]

some people...

seriosly - audio clips in the playlist in song mode works great for making full songs - even before the betas....why on earth would u only use pattern mode?

'cause I be a igorant git musician

[matthewjumps]

[Odditory]

Funny that the original poster hasn't posted anything else here than the small snowball he threw down the mountain in his first post. ^^

The original poster is too busy reading responses and peoples' experiences to be sitting and riding replies with counter-replies.

I've been taking a much closer look at FL and spending hours getting to grips with it after the realization that people that can play at least one instrument actually do take it seriously.

I actually really like how tight and snappy the GUI is - it makes me wish that some of the bigger DAW's had the kind of shiny exterior of a GUI that FL has.. it's the little things - like the gradients in the track lines of audio tracks, all the little knobs and buttons, etc. Lots of detail in the graphics which invite twiddling.

That said I still feel a bit confined in FL - it feels basically like a step sequencer on steroids. Sure there are audio tracks/clips and you could record say a vocal that runs the duration of the song. Still, from the demo songs and doing some recording it feels like the audio track features are 'crowbarred' or forced in as an afterthought to what's essentially a step/pattern sequencer at heart.

Overall I get the sense that if we compare some of the bigger DAW's to FL in terms of a painting canvas, the bigger DAW's are perhaps like a great big blank canvas and FL feels as more of a color-by-numbers canvas with lines or boxes already on the canvas just needing to be colored in as the artist sees fit. Perhaps the concept of a big giant blank canvas that is some of the bigger DAW's intimidates some people, hence my original question about whether people that play instruments used FL since I didn't know much about it.

Anyone that has the ability to "freestyle" a musical instrument guided only by inspiration for hours upon hours may already know that a big blank canvas is more condusive to recording the event than comparmentalizing the music into clips or bits to be patterned.

Bottom line: clearly FL has its uses - and I'm liking it more every day... now if it'd just support a Mackie Control.

[grymmjack]

I've been taking a much closer look at FL and spending hours getting to grips with it after the realization that people that can play at least one instrument actually do take it seriously.

because you need to justify it with whom??

I actually really like how tight and snappy the GUI is - it makes me wish that some of the bigger DAW's had the kind of shiny exterior of a GUI that FL has.. it's the little things - like the gradients in the track lines of audio tracks, all the little knobs and buttons, etc. Lots of detail in the graphics which invite twiddling.

you are a twit. even your compliments are arrogant. 'the little knobs and butttons' are "controls", just like in p0rto0lz.

That said I still feel a bit confined in FL - it feels basically like a step sequencer on steroids. Sure there are audio tracks/clips and you could record say a vocal that runs the duration of the song. Still, from the demo songs and doing some recording it feels like the audio track features are 'crowbarred' or forced in as an afterthought to what's essentially a step/pattern sequencer at heart.

they were. audio is not it's strong point. it was forced on the main programmer to implement that audio stuff (beyond sampler).

Overall I get the sense that if we compare some of the bigger DAW's to FL

which is what twits like you love to do. compare things. because you have to use the best, and be a p0r audi0 engineER. you compare because you are a snob and you cant help it. i pity the closed state of your mind.

in terms of a painting canvas, the bigger DAW's are perhaps like a great big blank canvas and FL feels as more of a color-by-numbers canvas with lines or boxes already on the canvas just needing to be colored in as the artist sees fit.

that is completely horrible analogy. you have just as much flexibility with fl as you do p0rtoolzz the difference is your brain doesn't get it. you cant deviate enough from the status-quo to fathom what is and is not possible. you aren't restricted in any way with fl. it is capable, the users ability and ambition is the only limitation.

Perhaps the concept of a big giant blank canvas that is some of the bigger DAW's intimidates some people, hence my original question about whether people that play instruments used FL since I didn't know much about it.

it's not initimidating, but it does confirm your a snob conformist probably incapable of original thought, and just follow the 'leader' around because everyone else does it.

Anyone that has the ability to "freestyle" a musical instrument guided only by inspiration for hours upon hours may already know that a big blank canvas is more condusive to recording the event than comparmentalizing the music into clips or bits to be patterned.

you aren't restricted to patterns. you obviously haven't read the manual, which isnt surprising either.

Bottom line: clearly FL has its uses - and I'm liking it more every day... now if it'd just support a Mackie Control.

bottom line: no one cares, go back to your homogenous sheeple p0rtoolz fuckheads and tell them that they aren't beautiful and unique snowflakes. it supports generic controllers and emulations, anyone with half a f**king clue would be ok with that.

[Beardedone]

I have been a Fruity Loops user since vs 3.5. I have played guitar since I was 10.

[scuzzphut]

Just curious if any Fruity Loops users exist that also know how to play a musical instrument (and no a turntable doesn't count - or at least I've never heard of a beatmatching/scratching school). Every time I've tried the latest version of FL it feels like a toy, but I know lots of people like it. I do have one friend that uses it to generate little beats to import into Nuendo but that's about the only musician (as in, someone that can play at least one instrument) I know that uses FL.

Just curious what peoples' use for FL is because I can't imagine writing a whole song in it unless its for a video game.

well. if you think you're above the plebs, what are you doing posting on KvR ???

[Ildon]

I've been taking a much closer look at FL and spending hours getting to grips with it after the realization that people that can play at least one instrument actually do take it seriously.

That is seriously some f**ked up logic and it speaks volumes about the kind of person you are.

I actually really like how tight and snappy the GUI is - it makes me wish that some of the bigger DAW's had the kind of shiny exterior of a GUI that FL has.. it's the little things - like the gradients in the track lines of audio tracks, all the little knobs and buttons, etc. Lots of detail in the graphics which invite twiddling.

You're trying too hard.

That said I still feel a bit confined in FL - it feels basically like a step sequencer on steroids. Sure there are audio tracks/clips and you could record say a vocal that runs the duration of the song. Still, from the demo songs and doing some recording it feels like the audio track features are 'crowbarred' or forced in as an afterthought to what's essentially a step/pattern sequencer at heart.

They are. I have a feeling that'll change eventually. As for right now, those people who do a lot of audio recording usually supplement FL with another application, like Adobe Audition. It isn't rocket science.

Overall I get the sense that if we compare some of the bigger DAW's to FL in terms of a painting canvas, the bigger DAW's are perhaps like a great big blank canvas and FL feels as more of a color-by-numbers canvas with lines or boxes already on the canvas just needing to be colored in as the artist sees fit.

You don't have a clue. Your analogy is ignorant. Spend more time with it than just a few hours and actually make some music in it, then judge it. It's pretty obvious you haven't actually sat down with FL and tried making a full length track in it.

Perhaps the concept of a big giant blank canvas that is some of the bigger DAW's intimidates some people, hence my original question about whether people that play instruments used FL since I didn't know much about it.

I think you're the one who's intimidated. Not us little ol' FL users.

Anyone that has the ability to "freestyle" a musical instrument guided only by inspiration for hours upon hours may already know that a big blank canvas is more condusive to recording the event than comparmentalizing the music into clips or bits to be patterned.

You're still trying too hard.

You're not bound to only using a bunch of patterns. FL works great as a sequencer like Sonar.

Bottom line: clearly FL has its uses - and I'm liking it more every day... now if it'd just support a Mackie Control.

You are a snob.

I'd like to know what makes a "big DAW" a "big DAW." The fact pros use it? You're a moron. The fact people who "actually play an instrument" use it? You're still a moron. Price? Still a moron. Features? Still a moron, and an ignorant one at that. GUI? Still a moron. See where I'm going with this, Mr. Snob?

Spend some serious time with FL if you're interested. If you're here to try to prove you're better than everyone else... well... there's no cure for being a twat.

Bye.

[vurt]

I have been a Fruity Loops user since vs 3.5. I have played guitar since I was 10.

you started using fruity 6 and a half uears before taking up guitar?

[matthewjumps]

woa its odd to see the ever-calm grymmjack give such a scathing reply.

but odditory, u really have no idea....fl's pattern + playlist + audio clips + automation is one of the most logical, flexible, straightforward and uninhibiting workflows ever.

[vurt]

woa its odd to see the ever-calm grymmjack give such a scathing reply.

that could be my fault, i swapped his valium for crack

[Shane Sanders]

vurt plays skin flute

[vurt]

vurt plays skin flute

only with you my special friend