Anyone know what will happen to the Steinberg A-1?

[TotcProductions]

Maybe Kraft finally sued.

Classic!!! Well played sir! Near fell of my chair!

[allusion76]

I don't know what you gusy are talknig about. The only thing Steinberg did was not include this synth in cubase 4. If you use cubase sx3 or any other version that has a1, you can still use it in a1. So before another over dramatic thread is created, people should do some reasrch on the topic within the cubase forum before creating a panic.

[Jason Brian Merrill]

I don't know what you gusy are talknig about. The only thing Steinberg did was not include this synth in cubase 4. If you use cubase sx3 or any other version that has a1, you can still use it in a1. So before another over dramatic thread is created, people should do some reasrch on the topic within the cubase forum before creating a panic.

well the OP has reason to be concerned, as now the A-1 is an unsupported product, techically, no?

[allusion76]

I don't know what you gusy are talknig about. The only thing Steinberg did was not include this synth in cubase 4. If you use cubase sx3 or any other version that has a1, you can still use it in a1. So before another over dramatic thread is created, people should do some reasrch on the topic within the cubase forum before creating a panic.

well the OP has reason to be concerned, as now the A-1 is an unsupported product, techically, no?

ok, that is a good point, but when was the last tiem they did an update for that product anyway?

I mean I can see someone complaining if they tried it and it doesn't work. But if your just worried, go make music and stop worrying already.

[TotcProductions]

I don't know what you gusy are talknig about. The only thing Steinberg did was not include this synth in cubase 4. If you use cubase sx3 or any other version that has a1, you can still use it in a1. So before another over dramatic thread is created, people should do some reasrch on the topic within the cubase forum before creating a panic.

well the OP has reason to be concerned, as now the A-1 is an unsupported product, techically, no?

Absolutely, thanks JBM.

@Allusion76: Listen up fuckwad. The problem is that my company currently sells a preset bank for the A-1, authored by Frank Neuman...If the new version 4 does not support the A-1, or does not include it...customers new to Cubase will not be getting it. This will mean, that since the A-1 is both no longer supported and no longer available for distribution to new customers, I'll have to plan to discontinue our A-1 soundset. Now, there are exceptions to this rule of selling soundsets for synthesizers that are no longer supported (our daAlfa2k soundset for example), but even those will have to be completely dropped eventually, as the synths will not be updated to handle vst architecture and operating system architecture changes. See, ya gotta think ahead toughguy. So, before making an "Overdramatic" post labeling a thread "Overdramatic", when it is, in fact, not "Overdramatic", I suggest you keep your hands in your pockets and away from the keyboard.


Peace

[TotcProductions]

I don't know what you gusy are talknig about. The only thing Steinberg did was not include this synth in cubase 4. If you use cubase sx3 or any other version that has a1, you can still use it in a1. So before another over dramatic thread is created, people should do some reasrch on the topic within the cubase forum before creating a panic.

well the OP has reason to be concerned, as now the A-1 is an unsupported product, techically, no?

ok, that is a good point, but when was the last tiem they did an update for that product anyway?

I mean I can see someone complaining if they tried it and it doesn't work. But if your just worried, go make music and stop worrying already.

Again, the issue here is that I make a living making PRESETS for people that MAKE MUSIC.

[allusion76]

But can't you still make presets and as long as people still have the synth you are good to go. I mean i look at people that make sounds for hardware synths. They are even in the jam you are because they are only so many number of a kind of synth made befoer they drop the product. But you still see new sound sets created for various waldorf and roland synths. At least with A1, there were several versions of cubase sold that had this synth added with it so there is a substantial client base out there. Tweak those knobs and stop worrying already.

[Compyfox]

well the OP has reason to be concerned, as now the A-1 is an unsupported product, techically, no?

ok, that is a good point, but when was the last tiem they did an update for that product anyway?

When the f*ck did they update VB-1 and LM-7?
Both those two shitty plugins are available in the pack since Cubase used the VST technology the first time, which was with Cubase VST3.x.

Now Steinberg is like "we had to discontinue it due to license issues". BULLSH*T!
Waldorf kinda died before SX1 was released, and now it is back and they try to tell us that the "A1 needs to be removed due to license issues". A thing that I think is completely made up, nuff said.

In my opinion it was removed due to the fact that the people underrated the A1 (as they did with the PPG Wave and Attack from the "Steinberg Waldorf Edition", which was discontinued as soon as it was released), therefore it was stamped as "pure crap" and as it happens on TV if a show runs crappy, the removal hammer takes place.


I tried to get to know from Steinberg at least 5(!) times in several threads "why" the A1 was removed. No answer, instead everyone who asked this got clearly ignored. Maybe I should write Waldorf if they pick up the PGG and the A1 once again. Both are awesome synths indeed.


Before anybody screams "stupid! You can still use it with SX3!!!". Well that's not the point here. The point is, the VB-1 and the LM-7, who're both over 10(!) years old and only got an upgrade in terms of the GUI since SX1, are still included within Cubase, sound totally crappy and aren't useable at all - and barely anybody uses it nowadays anyway. But it's totally adjusted to remove an awesome and CPU light synth just because "Waldorf" was behind half of the engine.

That's just pure bullsh*t if you ask me.

[Jason Brian Merrill]

I don't know what you gusy are talknig about. The only thing Steinberg did was not include this synth in cubase 4. If you use cubase sx3 or any other version that has a1, you can still use it in a1. So before another over dramatic thread is created, people should do some reasrch on the topic within the cubase forum before creating a panic.

well the OP has reason to be concerned, as now the A-1 is an unsupported product, techically, no?

Absolutely, thanks JBM.

@Allusion76: Listen up fuckwad. The problem is that my company currently sells a preset bank for the A-1, authored by Frank Neuman...If the new version 4 does not support the A-1, or does not include it...customers new to Cubase will not be getting it. This will mean, that since the A-1 is both no longer supported and no longer available for distribution to new customers, I'll have to plan to discontinue our A-1 soundset. Now, there are exceptions to this rule of selling soundsets for synthesizers that are no longer supported (our daAlfa2k soundset for example), but even those will have to be completely dropped eventually, as the synths will not be updated to handle vst architecture and operating system architecture changes. See, ya gotta think ahead toughguy. So, before making an "Overdramatic" post labeling a thread "Overdramatic", when it is, in fact, not "Overdramatic", I suggest you keep your hands in your pockets and away from the keyboard.


Peace

great post!!! hehe, makes perfect sense really.

[Jason Brian Merrill]

double post...

anyway, what if the dongle for cubase changes in some way and
A-1 doesnt see its there?

Does it need to see the dongle?

can you use it in other hosts?

[Jason Brian Merrill]

triple post.

[jens]

hehe, yeah, I don't do too well selling products to the warez kids. lol. Not sure why, they just don't go for it.

you don't need to be a warez kid to use synths which are discontinued like this - if I'd discover a new favourite band and would find out that (say) EMI holds the rights for one certain album of this band without selling it anymore then I'd for sure download it from peer-to-peer - if for no other reason then at least out of pure respect for the artists' work.

I f**king hate capitalism that goes wrong like this!




Let the flame waggons roll in...

[allusion76]

I don't know what you gusy are talknig about. The only thing Steinberg did was not include this synth in cubase 4. If you use cubase sx3 or any other version that has a1, you can still use it in a1. So before another over dramatic thread is created, people should do some reasrch on the topic within the cubase forum before creating a panic.

well the OP has reason to be concerned, as now the A-1 is an unsupported product, techically, no?

Absolutely, thanks JBM.

@Allusion76: Listen up fuckwad. The problem is that my company currently sells a preset bank for the A-1, authored by Frank Neuman...If the new version 4 does not support the A-1, or does not include it...customers new to Cubase will not be getting it. This will mean, that since the A-1 is both no longer supported and no longer available for distribution to new customers, I'll have to plan to discontinue our A-1 soundset. Now, there are exceptions to this rule of selling soundsets for synthesizers that are no longer supported (our daAlfa2k soundset for example), but even those will have to be completely dropped eventually, as the synths will not be updated to handle vst architecture and operating system architecture changes. See, ya gotta think ahead toughguy. So, before making an "Overdramatic" post labeling a thread "Overdramatic", when it is, in fact, not "Overdramatic", I suggest you keep your hands in your pockets and away from the keyboard.


Peace

Ok, now fuckwad, I guess you can't read straight. I am betting there has been no upsdate for this synth for quite some time. This synth currently works on SX4, I know, I have used it on that platform, so pre-existing users of cubase will not be a problem for you. So people will still use this synth. Instead of crying about a bank of patches that probably didn't make more then a 1000 pouunds a year, there are 3 new cubase synths that you can create banks for. Also, if you are so worried about having patches for synths that are not supported any more then why do you still sell patches for the PPG wave. Hardly any way to legally get that synth, but it appears that your still selling your patches. Nothing wrong with that, but with so many synths out there to make content for what is there to worry about. I understand that this is a product that you are afraid you are going to lose, but instead of worrying, there are so many other things that can done instead of creating drama. I mean this doesn't happen just by steinberg, but it happens every time a hardware synth is discontinued, but again, you don't see owners for those sound design companies crying that they have to adapt. Also, I do believe the a1 synth is on the dvd of cubase 4, so u can still rejoice on that, but seriously, to many cry babys on these forums and I just hope these people are just as passionate to create music.

[Jason Brian Merrill]

sorry, mr. 76. the term "F$%kwad" was already used. Please possibly think of an original term. Your post will be considered when a new term is in place.

thank you for your cooperation.

[arakula]

anyway, what if the dongle for cubase changes in some way and
A-1 doesnt see its there?

Does it need to see the dongle?

As far as I know, no. It performs some special (vendor-specific) calls to the host to check whether it's running in a supported environment.

can you use it in other hosts?

No.