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bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:22 pm

Hi,

I ran a basic little "home studio" sounding loop (it's sounds are from a korg triton) trough some non-linear processes. I would like your opinion on which file you like the most. If you can then please describe what you hear and why you think it's better than the others. I can reveal at least so much that there is a difference between all the files, this is not a placebo test. It's also best to use speakers for listening, headphones make it a lot harder to hear the effect. There might be some slight volume and frequency response differences but try not to be too technical and bothered about that. I just want your "intuitive" opinion on these. I'm also interested on what system you listened to these files.

Thanks for participating!

File A

File B

File C

Cheers!
bManic

iDumi · Post by **iDumi** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:37 pm

to me files 2 and 3 sound a bit to crispy esp in the high freq. i liked file a best cus it sounded warmer then the rest.

but i had to listen to all of them about 6 times each to notice any difference between them.

i like the snippet

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:31 pm

a little bump

lex_strooder · Post by **lex_strooder** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:51 pm

b and c have more thump (like a sidechained compressor with a highpass filter or a happy face), or i hear compression on a mid band of a mid/side separation... thats what I hear in my hd 580

cheers

speccyteccy · Post by **speccyteccy** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:17 pm

C seems to have more dynamics - but the difference to me is so small that I wouldn't care and so haven't voted!

Zedah · Post by **Zedah** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:56 pm

I just feel some small difference in dynamics for low and high frequencies, but I can't say which of files sounds better. The difference is too small for my poor sound system.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:10 pm

Just give the votes anyway.. This is more of an "intuitive" test based on feeling. I'm doing some research into subconscious effects of non-linearities of different kinds. So no need to worry about analytical listening. If you have to, just vote randomly.

Cheers guys!
bManic

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:44 am

Mr. subtle is at it again.

The differences are already so minimal (if there even is any!) that I don't hear it, except apparent loudness, starting from A (most quiet) and C the loudest, but even that is ranging 0.2-1.0 dB (possibly only on the peaks, didn't check though).

Can't see the point in this unfortunately, except if you're trying to prove that louder=better and more [insert your favorite wine tasting adjective here]?.

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:50 am

I liked A the best. There's a high-ish frequency shaker sound in the percussion (might be a synthesized hat even, or the tail of a warped/scratch sound) that becomes overly accentuated in both B and C, although it is more extreme in C. (I'm assuming the above files are the same as the ones in the Pushtec thread, as those were the ones I d/l'ed).

If I wasn't comparing three different versions of the same sound, I'm sure I wouldn't even be concerned with the extra high frequency content. But in the case of these three, I prefer the duller sound.

ouroboros · Post by **ouroboros** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:12 am

I voted C.
I don't have golden ears, by any stretch, and I liked the "crispness" of C. I liked A but found the bassyness overwhelmed the funky wakawaka goin' on. I figured that A would be the faovorite when I heard B, but

I liked C.
Of course, were it not for visual analyzers, my mixes might sound like white noise.

aetmos · Post by **aetmos** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:00 am

I like B the best. Having done a bit more analysis than was asked for, I'm fairly certain that the difference is definitely more than just average loudness, as Kingston suggests...but I'm not sure exactly what the difference is between then three. I'm interested to find out.

Debutante · Post by **Debutante** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:39 am

WARNING: Noob here... on headphones... cheap ones

A would have been fine, but between the three, I liked B best. The only difference I could hear was really in the higher end.

The shaker seemed to get a little louder A->C as did the 'ting' on the cowbell(?) but not as much.

The panned cymbals had a notable difference as well, if not most.

I also thought I heard the kick in the start to sound a little more tinny or snarish at C.

I chose B because the cowbell got a little loud in C.

That's my two (bullshit) sense

now please tell us the differences

3*s · Post by **3*s** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:14 am

My HR-824s + semi insulated room (bass problems) + ears liked B.
B and C are clearly brighter, and I can percieve some distortion at various frequencies.

I'm still barely able to or not able to at all hear Lampthruster or Colortone (they do something, I've checked), so maybe that says something about my hearing or my setup.

Watto · Post by **Watto** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:39 am

I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm a punter in many ways, so I liked C the best, as it seemed the loudest and most punchy.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:16 pm

Keep it going! Thanks guys!

Cheers!
bManic

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Non-scientific little poll. Vote with intuition.

Which of these sound snippets sound the best?