KVR Audio

graysonmillar · Post by **graysonmillar** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:43 am

Anyone have ANY info on this? Has anyone used the Wine emulator successfully with FL under a linux os?

I feel like testing out an older computer I have, to see if it works, because linux seems to run a lot smoother and faster than Windows, and I want to take advantage of that with my audio machine, if that's even possible.

Z3R0T0N1N · Post by **Z3R0T0N1N** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:46 am

i have started it up fine, but i don't know how to get the reg thing to work... then again, i didn't try, i just started it, thought "wow", and then noticed the 'demo' thing and closed it 'cause i didn't know what to do from there. I was using SuSE 10.1.

There is also LMMS, which is sorta fruityloops 3 ish, but gets better all the time.

graysonmillar · Post by **graysonmillar** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:46 am

http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/

Hmm, it looks interesting, and supposively supports VST (according to another website, but it doesn't mention VST under the official website)

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:56 am

I can't see you getting any kind of usable latency out of it via WINE so I don't see much point.

Elakhna · Post by **Elakhna** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:31 pm

FL is NOT compatible with Linux, nor are there any plans to make it compatible with WINE. There is a thread on Looptalk (accessible from a link on the support page of flstudio.com) about this very subject that addresses it flatly: FL works on Windows and Windows only.

Distorted_Mastermind · Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:17 pm

Elakhna wrote:FL is NOT compatible with Linux, nor are there any plans to make it compatible with WINE. There is a thread on Looptalk (accessible from a link on the support page of flstudio.com) about this very subject that addresses it flatly: FL works on Windows and Windows only.

Unless you know a little code which seems to be mandatory with Linux. I tried Linux a while back. I like the idea behind it and some of the audio apps have quite a bit of potential, but I seem to lack patience. Lately I've noticed there's quite a few live boot audio distros out. Might try some of them, anyone try any of them yet?

Klawzz · Post by **Klawzz** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:52 pm

- Wine does not introduce any form of latency, although this misconception is an easy one to make ; wine does not EMULATE windows functionalities, it implements them natively in Linux "dlls" => no performance hit occurs.

- I have tried the VST version of FL on Linux (thru dssi-vst) and, granted, it did not work too well.
But just because ImageLine intends to make no effort so as to make FL wine-compatible, this does not mean FL will never work under wine : wine is constantly improving, and if enough people are interested by/working on the wine version of FL, it could lead to success.

An other work in progress is ASIO support in Wine, which would enable you to run the host version of FL in wine.
http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-de ... 50626.html

Finally, do not pay too much attention to misinformed advice. Try by yourself. Experiment.

Also be prepared to invest a lot of time ; you might be disappointed if you expect to get all the same functionalities and applications that you currently enjoy. It is a whole different world out there.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:58 pm

Unless WINE supports ASIO then there is going to be unacceptable latency involved, which was my point. It doesn't need to be introduced via WINE, it just isn't there without ASIO.

raikard233 · Post by **raikard233** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:45 pm

Interesting post, my principal DAW is a Win machine with no so much plugins and softs and no internet connection because after 5 years of installings and formattings i've understand that the thing to go well with win is to leave the system light and to don't connect to the net (with or without antivir+firewall and bla bla bla).
And however the thing that after hours of work you must restart the win pc to obtain a fresh system still remain.

Now i'm writing from Linux Ubuntu 6.06, i'm learning the system and the things that i can do from the terminal, i haven't played so much with audio tweaking and installs, i have to learn more from the basics that i know and can do (a bit of patience to search & read all the helps and forum posts over the net).
I like so much the Linux OS mainly for the stability and above all for the net stability: i can stay days and weeks 24h/24h connected to the net without problems, no system slow downs, no HD "crunch crunch" and in almost all the times i have softwares fast responses.
With this system i can do almost all the thing that i can do with win (web graphics, graphics, 3d graphics and a lot of other things are possible to do).
For the audio softwares it lacks but with patience you can obtain what you want...
Now with win i can immediately store my music ideas, but i say "with win" only because my preferred audio apps run on it...
So i will be happy if with wine some "my preffered" audio apps can run on linux system.

Elakhna · Post by **Elakhna** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:29 am

Excuse me:

Go here

See this:

reflex [Staff] wrote:There's no version of FL for Linux. There never will be.

So,

Distorted_Mastermind wrote:Unless you know a little code which seems to be mandatory with Linux. I tried Linux a while back. I like the idea behind it and some of the audio apps have quite a bit of potential, but I seem to lack patience. Lately I've noticed there's quite a few live boot audio distros out. Might try some of them, anyone try any of them yet?

What's your cocky answer now?? What "little code" do I need to know to make FL Studio work in Linux even though it will never be supported??

Modeler · Post by **Modeler** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:44 am

Linux needs a GPL music sequencer / host á la FL Studio; for me it's the only thing missing (I'm an avid user of GIMP, Blender, Inkscape, OpenOffice and whatnot). Rosegarden is all well and groovy but it's not FL Studio. FL (plus my plug-in collection of course) is the only thing keeping me on Windows. If there were an open-source, freeware host of like it on Linux, I'm sure more of the devs would port their plug-ins to DSSI.

I have an idea in my head for such an application, which I call StudiOS (Studio O/S - geddit?) - has anyone else had that name already? If not, can I get a witness that I called it first?! Too bad the most complex bit of code I ever wrote ended in "20 GOTO 10". Maybe if I did a mock-up of the UI, some kind-hearted geek would step in and develop it for us all to enjoy. I can dream can't I?

fake · Post by **fake** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:11 pm

BONES wrote:Unless WINE supports ASIO then there is going to be unacceptable latency involved, which was my point. It doesn't need to be introduced via WINE, it just isn't there without ASIO.

It is possible to use libwine-jack that way you have acess to the low latency jack server.

Wine does not support windows vst progs that can also import vst's and also does not have full functionality using vst's when the do run. Dssi-vst can't be used to run them either.

A lot of the windows progs are built for and look for an asio driver and will fail if it's not found so a wine asio driver for Linux would be cool.

fake

rokkon · Post by **rokkon** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:53 pm

After my (very few) experiments with wine and audio applications I feel that the attempt of running a softstudio based on wine'd win apps on linux is a blind alley.
Personally I'd suggest to either live with the native apps or stick to windows. And honestly, I don't really see the point of installing Linux to run wrapped win applications on it.

Z3R0T0N1N · Post by **Z3R0T0N1N** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:50 pm

i say again: check out LMMS
it is somewhat similar to FL 3 or 4, and is getting better all the time. It has a native VSTi wrapper and natively supports LADSPA as well. It is getting better all the time, and actually there are some things in it that FL doesn't have, although it's more the other way around for a lot of stuff. Anyway, the more interest and suggestions, the better it gets.
Seems there will someday be a windows and mac version too, as far as discussions have been on the list.

Muse is very good too, but not like FL in any way.

Rosegarden4 is very nice.

Actually i have a lot of fun with Hydrogen and Seq24, with vsthost (DSSI).

there are a lot of solutions for audio on linux, including one of the very best multitrackers out there, Ardour.

rokkon · Post by **rokkon** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:58 pm

what's the state of ardour's midi sequencer?

FL6 on LINUX?