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To _starcraft_, sorry but 1024x768 is below spec (I guess I should add that to the system requirements). You probably wouldn't like some of the competition's products either (I'm not going to say what product I set out to "beat" with Poly-Ana, but suffuice to say its interface is MUCH bigger). There are many hosts that will let you access parameters without opening the plugin's GUI though... maybe you should try one of those.
again ...how retarded.
there's no rason for the gui to take up more than 1024/768 (there are synths out there with millions more paramereters that take up half the space).
I'm not aware of any vsti out there that won't fit on a 1024-768 screen.....it will at least let u scroll through the rest of the GUI.
moreover what about the new portable market which is about to take off ( see origami project)....they have 800-600 screens......
and for the parameteres yoursynth has it should be able to fit in even less space than that.
your GUi sucks.....90% of people on kvr told u that allready.
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diverdee wrote:regarding midi learn - Ableton lives vst automation only covers the first 128 parameters & no more.
So essentially without a midi learn option users of Ableton Live would not be able to fully automate this vsti.
It's a shortcoming of Abletons to be sure - but that's ma shortcoming on a very poular host which could possibly aversely affect potential sales.
Just something to be aware of.
Noted diverdee, thanks. (Yet another special consideration required to make good old Ableton happy with something every other host has no problem with. :roll: You can't play other instruments with Poly-Ana's keyboard in Ableton either, again due to their rather unique take on the VST spec.)

Oh, I guess I haven't even mentioned that yet. Even after Poly-Ana expires, you can still use it's keyboard as a MIDI source for other instruments! A little gift to you all. :)

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_starcraft_ wrote: again ...how retarded.
there's no rason for the gui to take up more than 1024/768 (there are synths out there with millions more paramereters that take up half the space).
I'm not aware of any vsti out there that won't fit on a 1024-768 screen.....it will at least let u scroll through the rest of the GUI.
moreover what about the new portable market which is about to take off ( see origami project)....they have 800-600 screens......
and for the parameteres yoursynth has it should be able to fit in even less space than that.
your GUi sucks.....90% of people on kvr told u that allready.
OK _starcraft_, why don't you go start a "I hate Poly-Ana" thread somewhere else and stop taking space here away those who ARE interested. You've made your point and it's noted. Sorry, but you must just not be in the target demographic. We didn't aim to please EVERYBODY (which is clearly impossible to achieve anyway and a misguided thing to even desire.) Better luck next time.

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ok, then please do a poll, and ask how many percent of people like the gui. i think it would reveal some surprises.
i thought you opened the thread, and asked for opinions since its in beta stage. you get a lot of complaints about the gui, and now you don't want to admit it?

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i don't hate poly-ana....actually the sound is perfect and for that price i would be interested in purchase. i'm just not happy that i have to pass on this as "i don't fit in" your target customer base ( :roll: ).(cos i have a laptop with 1024 screen)
the price is right and the sound is right... and u might appeal to more people than u think if u'd only listen to anything anyone has to say :roll: ...
just the way u dismissed the "link" filter option (makes perfect sense to anyone but you) says it all really.
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I get about 5:1 in favour. But the problem is, the people who like it send me emails, and the people who don't complain in public and repeat themselves over and over.

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i can understand your approach, but old hardware had those knobs because that whas the only practical way to do it. I think its a bit narrow minded to copy old interface to an other completely different medium. at the end of the day i still have to click and move the MOUSE to turn those knobs, so its really just an eye candy.

well, me thinks.

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AdmiralQuality wrote:I get about 5:1 in favour. .
yeh right :lol:
now after ppl have used it try asking what they think of this huge unpractical gui. :wink:

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i think the interface is fine, i mean, on the points you guys are obsessive about. you're just talking nonsence, who cares if it is so big? it isnt a problem.

the problem is, not only do you need to run in a high res (1280x min to have any room), at that resolution you need a huge screen (bigger than 23") and an extremely clear screen (lcd flatpanels are pretty much out, the text is so blurry as to be absolutely useless) which is pretty stupid. i dont mind having to use as higher resolution, or that the gui is huge and might need scroll bars to use at a lower one. the problem is i'm not going to put out $2500 for a 25" high definition plasma display!

not everyone is going to have the kind of hardware a graphics artist would have on thier daw pc. infact, statistics currently are that 60% of internet users run at 1024x768. 12% remains below that level, while 18% are above. (i do not have actual statistics here, but i'm certain this is almost completely filled by 21"/23" 1280x screens.)

you need to make the window scrollable (this is extremely easy!) or allow another mode where different sections can be enabled or disabled. for example, you should be able to disable the keyboard section, the amps, the oscs, the filters, and the modulators all as seperate units. i'm not going to suggest how you should go about doing that, there are many ways, but it is important that you do. 60% is a large percentage, and we can expect the 12% remaining below 1024x will move up, making it 72% of your possible user base.

think about that.

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You could probably fit it on 1024x768 pretty easily if you got rid of those source-knobs. It's simply not the kind of parameter that benefits from a knob at all.

Also, the shadows that some knobs cast on the labels aren't maybe such a good idea. If you are looking for that authentic look, I wonder what kind of light would one play a Minimoog to have such shadows :?: Or, at least simulate the lamp too, so you can move it. :wink:

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spritex wrote:
.jon wrote:Sounds great, much better than Zebra IMHO,
Quite different beasts, don't you think? Zebras soundscapes are beautiful, and I can't see how they could be done with this one.
Yeah, different synths, I just compared them as newly released synths that happened to lay side by side in my trial folder. Zeta... The soundscapes weren't anything special without the fx, and it was a complete pita to program, but CPU use was acceptable. I'm more into a simple, good sounding synth nowadays.

Off topic, I guess.

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No Cutoff link and 8-day trial will really hurt this synth's sales.

Kind of like writing a 20 page paper then not writing your name on it.

Nothing personal, just being honest. Decent sound.
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The sound is warm, nice and analogue'ish. CPU usage is pretty darn high but I could get a decent amount of voices on my dualcore.

I don't like the clicking envelopes however and I'm sorry to say that the GUI is just horrible to work with. A suggestion would be to lower the Source selector beneath the shell of the synth if you really want to keep it a knob. And just make a small cutout where the selector shows what source is currently selected. It would still work the same way but it would make it easier to read the GUI and it'd get less cluttered meaning it could be decreased somewhat in size.

You should really add skinning support though, that way people could make their own skin and the default look could still be the 3D analogue one.

/Majken

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I've been following the progress of this synth for a few months now and I'm really interested in trying it. I'll give it a couple of months before I do, to get the most out of the demo period.

But AQ, I have to say, the one thing that's clearly putting a lot of people off including myself is your incredibly blinkered and outright demeaning attitude in your posts on KVR any time you receive criticism of your work. My brand new laptop's (Dell E1505/6400) maximum screen resolution is 1280x800; so because of my choice of laptop, I'm automatically out of your target demographic? You realise this is one of the most common laptops in the world?

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Majken wrote:You should really add skinning support though, that way people could make their own skin and the default look could still be the 3D analogue one.
GREAT idea. REALLY great. A bunch of alternate skins would pop up very quickly, and way more people would be willing to go for it.

My laptop's plenty fast for this, but I just can't bear to squint at the controls. I happen to think the GUI is awesome to behold...but it's preventing me from buying nevertheless.

I wish everything were skinnable, to be honest. I wish Acid 6 were skinnable.

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