Cleaning up the noise in this Guitar track?

[danielmm]

http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/qui ... estoration
This might be a little over the top but I was looking at this this a.m. and thought of this post.

dano

[Amberience]

Hardware isn't a choice for some people, whether its price or space, sometimes you can't have a sexy stack of nice sounding gear. So software is the next best thing.

yes and I said he should get what best for him...no where did I say hardware is the best way. Plus toneport uses software

A DI will be a good addition, I didn't think it would be that useful to me, so I never got one for years, and I got the behringer, and I can't believe I never had one before.

well if you ask me toneport is a good di for guitar, bass and even vocals with a pc

but I also have a really good soundcard that gets me a low latency. I'd get one of those in your position too. Something PCI based I reckon.

true, and again the latency with tone port is remarkably low....so it seems you just varified my point because toneport isn't too much bigger than that di, it's cheaper than a soundcard with very low latency and you get very good software...can you do that with just a di?

never said you could.

Personally I think I've found the perfect way to make guitar based music for me. I'm using the ultra DI on the first input of my Layla3G to record my guitar. This is hooked up via XLR so I can phantom power the DI. My Roland bass cube is hooked into one of the rear line inputs. My distortions and amp effects revolve around using Trash and GSuite.

Not very appropriate if I want to play live, but currently that doesn't look an option.

I figure for my proposition module, I can do the work this way. I'm recording a guitar based album in a post-rock post-metal aesthetic, and I'm happy with the current setup.

There is an option to setup a band to play the stuff.. definitely would love to do that, gear would be a big problem though.

Saying that, I really like the ability to change and tweak the sound AFTER recording. So I totally get what you're saying Hink about using a real amp - I would love to have a nice sounding amp to do it with, but I gotta settle for the next best thing. Even the next best thing has some better qualities for me.

I wasn't really challenging your point, just adding to it.

[Hink]

Hardware isn't a choice for some people, whether its price or space, sometimes you can't have a sexy stack of nice sounding gear. So software is the next best thing.

yes and I said he should get what best for him...no where did I say hardware is the best way. Plus toneport uses software

A DI will be a good addition, I didn't think it would be that useful to me, so I never got one for years, and I got the behringer, and I can't believe I never had one before.

well if you ask me toneport is a good di for guitar, bass and even vocals with a pc

but I also have a really good soundcard that gets me a low latency. I'd get one of those in your position too. Something PCI based I reckon.

true, and again the latency with tone port is remarkably low....so it seems you just varified my point because toneport isn't too much bigger than that di, it's cheaper than a soundcard with very low latency and you get very good software...can you do that with just a di?

never said you could.

Personally I think I've found the perfect way to make guitar based music for me. I'm using the ultra DI on the first input of my Layla3G to record my guitar. This is hooked up via XLR so I can phantom power the DI. My Roland bass cube is hooked into one of the rear line inputs. My distortions and amp effects revolve around using Trash and GSuite.

Not very appropriate if I want to play live, but currently that doesn't look an option.

I figure for my proposition module, I can do the work this way. I'm recording a guitar based album in a post-rock post-metal aesthetic, and I'm happy with the current setup.

There is an option to setup a band to play the stuff.. definitely would love to do that, gear would be a big problem though.

Saying that, I really like the ability to change and tweak the sound AFTER recording. So I totally get what you're saying Hink about using a real amp - I would love to have a nice sounding amp to do it with, but I gotta settle for the next best thing. Even the next best thing has some better qualities for me.

I wasn't really challenging your point, just adding to it.

first off I was really more having fun with yah...but as for a real amp, I still am not really in a position for that...yeah I got the Boogie half stack and it's awesome, I play through it daily. But my enviroment just isn't geared for mic-ing so the xt live still is my preference for recording....but the Boogie seems to be providing the influence lately...

[TrevorMag]

The noise is quite annoying. I recorded the guitar track with Simulanalog's amp plugin... but when I applied gain from the JCM, the noise starts.
I would appreciate any help given.

Hi, I managed to get it sounding like this: (I'll keep it up there a few days...)
http://users.tpg.com.au/risa/guitar_cleaned.mp3

The four plugins I used:

1. My own Steroid Bouncer to isolate and mono-ize the left channel
2. Waves EQ, two notch filters @ 100 and 200Hz, max Q, min (-ve) gain - to get rid of most of the 50Hz hum
3. My own Water Glass on very conservative settings to reduce some of the broadband noise
4. Waves Gate, with very high threshold to mute the track when the guitar is not being played.

[AndrewSimon]

Teh Guitar- or Toneport will probably help a lot, but if you want an alround fine solution for your recording needs I'd recommend getting the following:

- A dedicated soundcard with proper drivers offering true low latency performance - the AC97 or Realtek chips will *never* perform as great. Please believe me, I tried them both with ASIO4All.
A nice budget model would be an M-Audio Audiophile 2496. During the last year the price dropped significantly (below 100 bucks). Their drivers are very nice and you could update to another preamp later on as the thing has digital ins/outs.

- Some sort of preamp with a dedicated instrument (sometimes also called "hi-z" or "high impendance") input.
As said before, M-Audios Audiobuddy (hell no, I don't work for them!) is doing a fine job. It's got instrument and mic inputs, it's small and convenient - and again, it comes for less than 100 bucks.

Both of those together would be well within your budget and you could probably even get them 2nd hand off eBay or so.
No need for a DI box anymore either (the Audiobuddy serves as that).
Btw, with a DI box only, added to your current setup, you'd still need a line driver (really, you *don't* want to use the mic in of that AC97 or Realtek onboard crap).

+1
Listen to Sascha, it's the best solution for your budget.

[danielmm]

...sounds pretty good now!

dano

[fanir]

The noise is quite annoying. I recorded the guitar track with Simulanalog's amp plugin... but when I applied gain from the JCM, the noise starts.
I would appreciate any help given.

Hi, I managed to get it sounding like this: (I'll keep it up there a few days...)
http://users.tpg.com.au/risa/guitar_cleaned.mp3

The four plugins I used:

1. My own Steroid Bouncer to isolate and mono-ize the left channel
2. Waves EQ, two notch filters @ 100 and 200Hz, max Q, min (-ve) gain - to get rid of most of the 50Hz hum
3. My own Water Glass on very conservative settings to reduce some of the broadband noise
4. Waves Gate, with very high threshold to mute the track when the guitar is not being played.

Thanks alot for that mate, maybe it'll give me an idea one what to do. So, the noise is broadband noise?

Teh Guitar- or Toneport will probably help a lot, but if you want an alround fine solution for your recording needs I'd recommend getting the following:

- A dedicated soundcard with proper drivers offering true low latency performance - the AC97 or Realtek chips will *never* perform as great. Please believe me, I tried them both with ASIO4All.
A nice budget model would be an M-Audio Audiophile 2496. During the last year the price dropped significantly (below 100 bucks). Their drivers are very nice and you could update to another preamp later on as the thing has digital ins/outs.

- Some sort of preamp with a dedicated instrument (sometimes also called "hi-z" or "high impendance") input.
As said before, M-Audios Audiobuddy (hell no, I don't work for them!) is doing a fine job. It's got instrument and mic inputs, it's small and convenient - and again, it comes for less than 100 bucks.

Both of those together would be well within your budget and you could probably even get them 2nd hand off eBay or so.
No need for a DI box anymore either (the Audiobuddy serves as that).
Btw, with a DI box only, added to your current setup, you'd still need a line driver (really, you *don't* want to use the mic in of that AC97 or Realtek onboard crap).

Thanks alot for that mate, anyway, I've had a look at the prices here and its quite expensive IMO.

M-Audio Audio Buddy - S$160
M-Audio Audiophile 2496 - S$180

So, to sum it all up, I'll have to spend S$340.

Maybe in the future, I'll keep that in mind but atm, I still think purchasing the Toneport UX2 is better, it's about S$200.

Anyway, guys, thanks for all the input. Really appreciate them.

[Sascha Franck]

Wow, that's freaking expensive prices for the two!
The Audiophile goes for between 70-80 Euros (new) over here, the Audiobuddy for around 80. Ok, you'll have to add around 10-20% to translate that into US$, but still...

Well, I think the TonePort might be a decent solution for guitar recordings, so probably it's the best for you anyways.

[Amberience]

I think you could get the Toneport UX2 and be able to start making songs right away. If $200 is all you can afford.. I can't think of much else that you'd be able to get.

With the Toneport you get your guitar input, which should be high quality considering its line6, and then you get some amps and effects and distortions also.

[fanir]

Oh, I think so too, was wondering, would the Toneport work with Vst's like Simulanalog, Amplitube 2 or Guitar Rig?

[Amberience]

You mean could you use those instead of the Gearbox? I think so yes. I think it acts just like an "input" in your host software.

[fanir]

Hello again, I just purchased Toneport UX2 and have a couple of questions.

1. How can I get it to work with VST plugins in my DAW without running Gearbox?

2. There's no sound from my PC speaker but when I use headphones plugged in to the Toneport, then I can hear it. Do I need to connect it somewhere?

3. I have 256MB Ram, will it still work?

That's all atm. I'm liking it so far, no more loud noise [but there is a little white noise, just minor]. Thanks, I think I'm in for a cracker!

Thanks again.

[Amberience]

Hopefully Lunch Money will pop in here, he's got the UX2 I believe.

[Hink]

I may have missed it, but knowing what you are using fanir would be helpful too...

[fanir]

Hopefully Lunch Money will pop in here, he's got the UX2 I believe.

Maybe a topic change would do?

I may have missed it, but knowing what you are using fanir would be helpful too...

What I am using? Haha, sorry but I don't get you. My English kinda lack as I'm Asian as you know