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Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:53 am

Looking for some impulses to apply to vocals in a convolver.. For instance would like to emulate classic analoge compression saturation etc.. Does not have to be reverb only. I checked out The best Impulse Response [IR] sites post but only found reverb stuff.. Can anyone lead me in the right direction? Let me know!

TIA

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jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:03 pm

For instance would like to emulate classic analoge compression saturation etc

This won't happen as far as i know. Simply isn't possible with convolution.

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:11 pm

Jup.. seriously? Thats strange I thought that anything could be convolved now adays... I found this over at NoiseVault..

http://noisevault.com/nv/index.php?opti ... cat&cat=20

Will jive it a try and let you know if I got it to work..

Toxikator · Post by **Toxikator** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:17 pm

Convolution will apply your sound to the sound of the impulse. You'll recieve the equalization and any reverberant noise.

However, I don't believe that the tones are volume independant (i.e., the louder your sound is, the more it's overdriven).

we'll have to see, though.

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:24 pm

I recently used a mono reverb impulse on a drum kit taken from a roomy sounding congo sample loop and added a light slow sine wave pan to the convo'd frequencies and WOW I could not belive how real it sounded.. Now when I preview with other vst reverbs and roomverbs it sounds so fake and 'clangy'.. I think convolution has messed up my perception of reverb software on drums, I want it to do the same for amping coloring and compressing vocals

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Let me know if theres any other good sites out their other than noise vault! Oh shit I forgot to check google..

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Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:56 pm

HOLY SHIT AGAIN I'M AMAZED!! Tryed some compression imps and analog console equing WOW FRIGGIN MAKES A CRAPPY MIC SOUND GOOD!

stevieb19 · Post by **stevieb19** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:48 pm

jupiter8 wrote:
For instance would like to emulate classic analoge compression saturation etc
This won't happen as far as i know. Simply isn't possible with convolution.

Check the Focusrite stuff like Liquid Channel it is very possible.

Toxikator · Post by **Toxikator** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:01 pm

stevieb19 wrote:Check the Focusrite stuff like Liquid Channel it is very possible.

It will apply the tonal character, yes, but will it apply the volume shifts? One of the best parts about the analogue gear modeling was the "tube overdrive" or "saturation" where the increased volume changed the equalization.

If you're using a standard gunshot impulse it applies the frequency content over time, but it will only be truly authentic if the sound you're using is as loud as a gunshot, because you'll have the frequency content of a sample that loud...

But then again I'm no expert.

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:05 pm

stevieb19 wrote:
jupiter8 wrote:
For instance would like to emulate classic analoge compression saturation etc
This won't happen as far as i know. Simply isn't possible with convolution.
Check the Focusrite stuff like Liquid Channel it is very possible.

1. The Liquid Channel has "Dynamic Convolution" TM. Not the same thing as regular convolution.
2. Does the OP have a LC ? No.
3. Can you load your own impulses in a LC ?. No.

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:14 pm

Only static delay based effects can be captured with convolution. So pretty much reverb an EQ. Mind you you'll need several impulses if you want to adjust the EQ. One for each setting. Or maybe you can fake it by interpolating the impulses.

You can capture chorus and phasers and such,but they won't modulate. They will be static snapshots.

Things like distorsion and compression simply can't be captured with convolution. It does'nt work that way.
Sure, some of the sonic flavors of an analog unit will be captured but not the way you want.

And the compressors in the Liquid Channel has to be modelled to some extent. How else would you get different attack and release times for example using convolution ?

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:57 pm

Jup.. I use a dynamic convolution thingy to apply the impulse directly "over?" replace? the orignal.. I SIMPLY CANNOT BELIVE HOW IT GOT A SHITTY ASS Shure Unishpere 565SD to sound.. No I would not say it "COMPRESSED" the signal but I can say it gave it the impression of warmness... I mean somtimes it's all about the perception and not the actual thing when listening.. What ever fools the ear I guess..

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Britishboxer · Post by **Britishboxer** » Tue May 24, 2022 4:41 pm

have you guys considered the Howard Benson vocal channel strip?

AC222 · Post by **AC222** » Tue May 24, 2022 4:50 pm

I believe you are looking for the Past To Future Gum Road impulses. They have an extensive library of things such as impulse responses of the input/output stages of analog compressors. One of their popular libraries, for instance, is of the famous Blue Stripe 1176. It's a pretty sweet sounding saturation. You can hear audio examples on their yt page. Also for regular reverbs, many are tracked to tape for a more analog vibe

Britishboxer · Post by **Britishboxer** » Tue May 24, 2022 5:18 pm

Lagrange wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:11 pm Jup.. seriously? Thats strange I thought that anything could be convolved now adays... I found this over at NoiseVault..

http://noisevault.com/nv/index.php?opti ... cat&cat=20

Will jive it a try and let you know if I got it to work..

you still have them online?

Best Impulses for vocals..