KVR Audio

laputa_sync · Post by **laputa_sync** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:19 am

Exper-i-"mint"

O.L.T · Post by **O.L.T** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:20 am

laputa_sync wrote:Exper-i-"mint"

I'll 'ave one, thx

Time Control · Post by **Time Control** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:53 am

Hmm,
Not sure yet. We'll see.

larsby · Post by **larsby** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:13 am

Next year I'll add more nudity to my entry, that should give me some votes. As for what it should do, got no clue

VladimirDimitrievich · Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:43 am

I, for one, am definetely going to enter the next competition. I didn't get around to do so this time, unfortunately, but I already know what I will do.

I don't think the DC should be a yearly event - I think it would be better served every half year. So right now, we'd start planning and stuff again.

Regarding categories, I'd say Instruments, Effects, Other, top two winning ones of each get a prize and overall winners get a prize too. Or something. I dunno.

duncanparsons · Post by **duncanparsons** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:51 am

nah yearly is better - there'll be more support for an annual event, more often and there'll be burnout.

I have ideas, but I'll wait until the time to keep it more spontaneous

I don't think there should be categories, I'm not even convinced about greater granularity in what people vote about (sound/gfx/etc). I like the single vote - it makes the punter think about what they like, and why, more; and it keeps the devs on their toes in making an all 'rounder good plug.

Having said that, I like the idea of nominations for best innovation, best all-rounder, etc - but only have a couple. Have these along side the top 3 and more as incidental titles rather than laureate positions..

I thought the slightly grassroots, ragged approach worked well, and whilst there are lessons to be learnt in what to change, there are also lessons to be learnt in what not to change

DSP

Time Control · Post by **Time Control** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:05 am

Yearly is good. 6 months would be overkill. Better off starting to collect donations earlier and let it build up all year.

jobromedia · Post by **jobromedia** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:15 am

I don't really agree. Having one compo during the spring for effects and one compo during the autumn for instruments seams to be the best way. And regarding donations, give the winner 75% and postpon the last 25% for the next compo. That way we can build up higher and higher prizepot.

haydxn · Post by **haydxn** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:45 pm

It'd be fun to have a more regular thing... i make random things all the time, it'd be neat to have something like the music cafe contest. maybe not monthly, but maybe say every quarter, have a definite theme and a definite "small but defined" target. even if stuff is unfinished and experimental, who cares - the more the merrier!

Dominus · Post by **Dominus** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:11 pm

I say quarterly. If you don't make your plugin this quarter, you'll have it ready for the next quarter. You don't have to enter every quarter if you don't want to. If you restrict it to instrument one session and effect one session, you could have people sitting on a plugin for 8-9 months before they can enter it because it's the wrong time of year.

I don't like the idea of a yearly competition and "saving up the prize money" because then the competition becomes about the money, and not about the ideas and plugins, which I think was Tuz' original idea.

Another thing, when did Tuz originally set this up? How much time did people have to make the plugin? 2 months? 3? I think quarterly is completely doable, if Tuz doesn't mind working like that. If he doesn't want to, maybe we can have other people set it up. I understand KVR is already on the map, and we could have a deluge of plugins, but we ALREADY HAVE THAT. Making a competition out of it makes it a little more fun, and offers the incentive of a small reward for work.

Personally, I think it's a great thing that Tuz did, and it could go a long ways to giving people a nearly free soft-studio... which could put a dent in the ignorant casual piracy. I wish I could have entered, but I've been a little busy with things.. and I feel like an ass for not putting SE to use, as Tuz gave it to me. I'll make up for it by pledging my support to the contest:

Make it quarterly, and I'll donate $5 per entry. 30 plugins? $150. 50 plugins? $250.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:19 pm

haydxn wrote:It'd be fun to have a more regular thing... i make random things all the time, it'd be neat to have something like the music cafe contest. maybe not monthly, but maybe say every quarter, have a definite theme and a definite "small but defined" target. even if stuff is unfinished and experimental, who cares - the more the merrier!

i was gonna suggest something similar, perhaps stay yearly but narrow it down a little in future with a suggested theme, ie this year its a dynamics plug in... this would keep it a more spntaneous thing with regards the devs and also give the voters something to aim for criteria wise.
this year has shown a lot of bad feeling from people who expected to do better than others for whatever reason, perhaps given a theme in future then at least we have something to aim for on all channels.

just my thoughts...

Dominus · Post by **Dominus** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:31 pm

I think having it more often will spur some spontaneity, I can see some people wanting to compete in all of them... and like I said, having it yearly makes it more about the money than the competition and the spirit in which this was started.. FREEWARE.

To the people that think they should have done better.. it's like the elections in the USA. Not enough people voted! Should we have runoff voting?

Personally, out of the ones I voted for, I think that only one was in the top 5. The rest were ones I thought I could find a use for, no matter how weird or quirky they may have looked.

Dominus · Post by **Dominus** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:35 pm

Dominus wrote:The rest were ones I thought I could find a use for, no matter how weird or quirky they may have looked.

Ooh. Next time around, the devs need to keep their names off of it, only the judge (Tuz or whoever) will know who made what. That might help the voting, then people will vote for plugins, not developers. The devs can't have the plugin on their website or in their signature until after voting is over.

Chris Roberson · Post by **Chris Roberson** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:37 pm

I'm starting to like this idea of more frequently occuring comps myself. Especially if everyone thinks the prize pot won't be a large amount of money it'll help take the focus away from cash as much. Although I don't think it should be themed, if we followed this already done formula on a monthly basis, we'd have a hell of a lot of fun.

paul_ex · Post by **paul_ex** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:42 pm

I agree 100% with everything that duncan said above. As a dev it can be incredibly tiring work to finish a plugin, plus the time constraints involved means that you wouldnt necessarily get as good plugins doing it 1/2 yearly vs yearly..

Just my 2p

Paul

So who's started to plan for next year?