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Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:13 pm

"String Theory" has always been one that i like. But if you want true realism, you will have to shell out for an expensive sample set and learn how to play the set with the music style you want (the sets generally have slow, medium, fast and staccatto styles, as well as various other such variations).

P.T. · Post by **P.T.** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:47 pm

alex zonder wrote:
ianweb123 wrote:Doesn't work for me.. every note played sounds identically the same, which makes it sound very synthetic to my ears
!?! I'd say, compare this to an actual performance of this piece; maybe Beethoven's notes sound all identical to you
No matter, It's simply a good soundfont in comparison to other "strings".

Here's another short MP3, now of the cadenza violin soundfont I mentioned earlier. I'm not saying it is perfect, but it is certainly better than what you get in Edirol's Orchestral or Synful Orchestra:

http://stashbox.org/uploads/1150670637/ ... ndfont.mp3

And this is a free instrument. Again a midi file (second rate composer this time), played, recorded and rendered in REAPER. Well, just get it if you think it could be useful.

You did a very good job with that piece, but there are problems.
The loop points in the sample are very obvious and the fast passages slur quit a bit.

griels · Post by **griels** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:58 pm

Can't say I agree about Cadenza being better than Synful (at least not with Delay For Expression on), but I'm not aware of anything better in the freeware arena. In terms of synthesized violins, I'm quite fond of the AAS String Studio ones, which have somewhat more dynamism than most sample sets. On the other hand, a finely tuned Kirk Hunter, VSL Solo Strings or Garritan Strad performance will probably sound the most convincing of all, short of the real McCoy.

saulc12 · Post by **saulc12** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:39 pm

It won't be free, but it will be cheap - you could try Bowin (there is a mssage thread witha link to the demo version elsewhere)...

Try this thread...

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2183728

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:39 am

here's a super late reply about this topic...
it's not free, and requires Tassman, Reaktor or Korg Oasys PCI, but Harm Visser has some fantastic models for sale. Check out his demo tracks for the bowed instruments and see what you think.
http://www.hvsynthdesign.com/
As soon as i can justify the expense, i will be buying his whole Tassman library.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:51 am

Also, about StringZ from Krakli... i too thought it sounded terrible when i played around with it... but then i put some reverb on it and was impressed. The sound of the strings coming from this synth are very woody, too, so if you're not interested in that timbre, then sure, it doesn't work for ya. but i have kept it since discovering how nice it sounds with reverb. i plan to try using it in something eventually. Thanks Ian! (really liked your joke about "like all SE synths sounding the same, we're all the same person")

String Theory is really nice, too, btw. (also SE, i think)

Two tracks of mine using Kontakt's strings, Solo String and String Theory:
http://www.enter.net/~diogenes/music/do ... 20else.mp3 (using Kontakt's lovely strings very subtly)
http://www.enter.net/~diogenes/music/do ... string.mp3 (using Solo String, where the title's inspiration came from, hah, and String Theory)

Also, if you can get a hold of Computer Music Issue 79, they gave away a set of 169 Garritan string samples (i have the issue - violin, viola, cello and bass - i made Akai S6000 patches out of them all so that they would be ready for use). They're excellent (which means the Garritan String VST is likely to be good, too). Actually, there are two samples with errors in them, but it's still a great give away if you have the time and patience to set them up in a sampler. (this is the same issue that had LimeLite Solo)

ianweb123 · Post by **ianweb123** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:05 am

Jace-BeOS wrote:Also, about StringZ from Krakli... i too thought it sounded terrible when i played around with it... but then i put some reverb on it ..

I have always taken every opportunity to say that reverb is essential for Stringz. I didn't include it as part of the structure by default as I guessed that most people would have better reverbs already than anything that I could include in SE.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:45 am

and that's a perfectly reasonable and sensible choice. it just took me forever to try it and realize how much it helps certain sounds. same goes for my Yamaha TX802 FM synthbeast

spacedad · Post by **spacedad** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:03 pm

mdsp wrote:what do you think about the sound of this one:

violin.mp3

that sounds wicked!got all those squeaky nuances.very clever.

btw ian;just got a nice pizi sound from stringz,tweaked tc's piky preset.added xoxos's choral+sweetboys reverb+stereostretcher.sitting nicely in the mix.

(thought about posting it,but it's all personal,and don't feel like getting a slagging atm.)

knockman · Post by **knockman** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:27 pm

Jace-BeOS wrote: Two tracks of mine using Kontakt's strings, Solo String and String Theory:
http://www.enter.net/~diogenes/music/do ... 20else.mp3 (using Kontakt's lovely strings very subtly)
http://www.enter.net/~diogenes/music/do ... string.mp3 (using Solo String, where the title's inspiration came from, hah, and String Theory)

those tracks are beautiful

especially the second "solo on a string". so much so that i completely failed to listen attentively to the string examples, which was what i had intended. wonderful. got any more?

regards

A Free Vst Violin