HI
Im trying sample my vocal ... but Im not successful .
It sounds very clear of original . So I thought , very good idea is to learn how to do it , or ask for a help .
Do you know any tutorial (online) for vocal sampling or can you give me advices (step by step) how to do it (if you ever have done it )?
thanks a lot
Vocal sampling - HELP
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- KVRAF
- 16856 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Right... this is a list of essential stuff you need for recording vocals:
1. a singer or voice talent (obviously)
2. a room (or vocal booth) to record in
3. a microphone
4. a mic preamp
5. a soundcard
6. recording / sampling software
7. optional effects (compression, reverb, etc)
8. an engineer in control of everything
Every piece in that puzzle has influence on the end result.
1: If the singer can't sing: get another one. You can't polish a turd. Also the distance between mic and singer influences the result.
2: Apart from the voice you'll always hear some acoustic reflections from the room. Less reflections is better in general. Cheap room treatment: hang up a duvet or sleeping bag and set the mic inside that.
3: Different microphones deliver different sounds. Asking which mic is best for which situation is opening a can of worms. Popular microphones for voice are of "large diafragm condenser" type, but you certainly can get good results with dynamic microphones like the Shure SM-57 / SM-58.
4: The signal of the mic has to be amplified to line level. This is done either by the soundcard, or a mixer, or a seperate mic preamp. Which is best for which situation is again a can of worms.
5: The amplified mic signal needs to be sampled by an audio interface (posh word for soundcard.) The delivered quality differs from model to model. Some soundcards have zero-latency monitoring, which means that the outputs also let you hear what's recorded without any delay.
6: The software you use by itself doesn't influence the sound, but you must be able to use it comfortably. Think of editing etc.
7: When recordings sound unprofessional, first have a look at the mic and room acoustics. The next level is usage of effects like compression and reverb. Which ones and which settings is (guess what) ... a can of worms!
8: Maybe the most inmportant factor is not the gear itself, but how you (the engineer) use it. Just experiment at first, try things out and build up experience.
1. a singer or voice talent (obviously)
2. a room (or vocal booth) to record in
3. a microphone
4. a mic preamp
5. a soundcard
6. recording / sampling software
7. optional effects (compression, reverb, etc)
8. an engineer in control of everything
Every piece in that puzzle has influence on the end result.
1: If the singer can't sing: get another one. You can't polish a turd. Also the distance between mic and singer influences the result.
2: Apart from the voice you'll always hear some acoustic reflections from the room. Less reflections is better in general. Cheap room treatment: hang up a duvet or sleeping bag and set the mic inside that.
3: Different microphones deliver different sounds. Asking which mic is best for which situation is opening a can of worms. Popular microphones for voice are of "large diafragm condenser" type, but you certainly can get good results with dynamic microphones like the Shure SM-57 / SM-58.
4: The signal of the mic has to be amplified to line level. This is done either by the soundcard, or a mixer, or a seperate mic preamp. Which is best for which situation is again a can of worms.
5: The amplified mic signal needs to be sampled by an audio interface (posh word for soundcard.) The delivered quality differs from model to model. Some soundcards have zero-latency monitoring, which means that the outputs also let you hear what's recorded without any delay.
6: The software you use by itself doesn't influence the sound, but you must be able to use it comfortably. Think of editing etc.
7: When recordings sound unprofessional, first have a look at the mic and room acoustics. The next level is usage of effects like compression and reverb. Which ones and which settings is (guess what) ... a can of worms!
8: Maybe the most inmportant factor is not the gear itself, but how you (the engineer) use it. Just experiment at first, try things out and build up experience.
We are the KVR collective. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. 
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 69 posts since 11 Oct, 2006
Thanks for reply BertKoor !
Im singer .. not so good , but it is ok I hope
Im using Apogee Mini-Me + Rode K2 .. for room acoustic I have ordered sE Reflection Filter .
But I think my biggest problem is editing of recorded material ... vocal is like acoustic instrument ,it is more difficult take it into sampler than (VSTi) synths and drums - it is without problems .
But vocal sampling is very hard for me ... Im not sure how done loops (for vocal pads)for example , how edit it after recording ... how sampler to use for best result .
Im singer .. not so good , but it is ok I hope
Im using Apogee Mini-Me + Rode K2 .. for room acoustic I have ordered sE Reflection Filter .
But I think my biggest problem is editing of recorded material ... vocal is like acoustic instrument ,it is more difficult take it into sampler than (VSTi) synths and drums - it is without problems .
But vocal sampling is very hard for me ... Im not sure how done loops (for vocal pads)for example , how edit it after recording ... how sampler to use for best result .
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- KVRAF
- 16856 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Which sampling software do you use now?
Making pad loops with vocal samples is not easy. You can try to create a cross-fade: the end of the loop gently decreases volume and the beginning gently increase in volume. By overlapping those parts the volume remains the same while there is no seam between start and end.
Making pad loops with vocal samples is not easy. You can try to create a cross-fade: the end of the loop gently decreases volume and the beginning gently increase in volume. By overlapping those parts the volume remains the same while there is no seam between start and end.
We are the KVR collective. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 69 posts since 11 Oct, 2006
I recorded simply long A,U,I vocals (in cubase) , than I used compression and eq ... I cut breathe , wrong start and end .
I exported this as 88,2/24 wav and I used Kontakt and NN19(reason) ... Does exist better way ?
I exported this as 88,2/24 wav and I used Kontakt and NN19(reason) ... Does exist better way ?