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adammann · Post by **adammann** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:22 am

All the mellotron stuff I've heard sounds absolutely crap compared to those I've heard on albums. I want something that sounds very similar to that used on Opeth's latest album, "Ghost Reveries". With heavy tremelo. I guess I'm just after the "organ-like" sound - have no interest in the other mellotron sounds.

mistertoast · Post by **mistertoast** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:28 am

Maybe the Mellotron soundsets are fine and you just need a good Leslie or tremelo effect.

emdot_ambient · Post by **emdot_ambient** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:31 am

I don't know of any Mellotron sounds that have tremelo. The Mellotron itself didn't. So obviously if you're after a sound with tremelo, it came from an FX added after the synt.

The best Mellotron sounds I've heard come from the M-Tron by GMedia and the sample sets by hollowsun.com.

adammann · Post by **adammann** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:28 am

emdot_ambient wrote:I don't know of any Mellotron sounds that have tremelo. The Mellotron itself didn't. So obviously if you're after a sound with tremelo, it came from an FX added after the synt.

That's interesting. I'd seen a few live vids of bands playing what I thought was a mellotron with really heavy tremelo. Might have been something else.

emdot_ambient wrote: The best Mellotron sounds I've heard come from the M-Tron by GMedia and the sample sets by hollowsun.com.

Will check it out, cheers.

Anyone know any others?

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:35 am

I would try and post a short clip (or a link to a clip) of the sound you're talking about. I don't know anything about Opeth, but hearing what you're talking about might help us in identifying the sound, or at least give you some starting points as to how you could approximate it.

taijiguy · Post by **taijiguy** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:05 pm

The best sample set on the market is this one:

http://www.mellotron.com/cdlist.htm

It's in Akai format, but I think it will load into most samplers. If you only want one sound (eg: MkII Violins), these are decent:

http://www.mi7libraries.com/main/sample ... .jsp?id=32

Of course, you could always wait for the new Streetly M4000 Mellotron and have the real thing.

emdot_ambient · Post by **emdot_ambient** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:21 pm

adammann wrote:
emdot_ambient wrote:I don't know of any Mellotron sounds that have tremelo. The Mellotron itself didn't. So obviously if you're after a sound with tremelo, it came from an FX added after the synt.
That's interesting. I'd seen a few live vids of bands playing what I thought was a mellotron with really heavy tremelo. Might have been something else.

Still very could have been a Mellotron, but run through a tremelo or rotating speaker effect. Mellotrons had only tape speed and tone controls on them, IIRC. Almost no one would use them without running through at least a volume pedal and then some other FX.

Aardvark · Post by **Aardvark** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:22 pm

Load the MkII Violin Orch patch in MTron. Add a Compressor at 6:1 - 10:1, add a Delay (I've found that a short analog works best for me), then throw a Reverb on that puppy. Instant Close To The Edge Mellotron.

Klemperer · Post by **Klemperer** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:15 pm

I think, like already mentioned, the M-tron is a must if you like a Mellotron like we all do and can't afford an old one as hardware

. Freeware-alternatives as VSTi were from tweakbench (has an own forum here), "tapeworm", and there was something from batsounds if I remember right, a very old vsti. I'd get M-Tron, but I have it 'til many years

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Thanks for telling your setting, Aardvark, I thought a while ago how "close to the edge"-settings were done (there are even "Yes strings" in M-Tron). Sometimes it's really nice to know how others use the m-tron.

mellotronaut · Post by **mellotronaut** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:33 pm

M-Tron is great.
If you use 'Reason', this one is excellent:
http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=213

With a sampletank-player included, this:
http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=230

and this, but it's more expensive:
http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=220

Here are the samples from 'Hollow Sun' (a very useful collection:
http://www.bestservice.de/detail.asp/de ... 5p53p64p11

Have fun!

emdot_ambient · Post by **emdot_ambient** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:32 pm

Klemperer wrote:Sometimes it's really nice to know how others use the m-tron.

I typically run the M-Tron through a sweepable filter and compressor. Delay and/or reverb (the Classic editions from Kjaerhus are great on the M-Tron) are optional depending on what you need. This give a great Edgar Froese (Tangerine Dream) kind of sound. Works well on especially strings and flute (as in the track I did for the Chrysalid, the KVR Katrina Relief CD).

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:59 pm

Here's J.P. Hovercrafts Mellotron samples:
http://tinpan.fortunecity.com/aphex/113/
They're as "mellotron-ish" as it gets. I mean, it's the real deal sampled.
I think on www.sf2midi.com you can find some soundfonts based on them.

For a freebie, they are excellent.

For anything payware I'd go for G-Media.

klagga · Post by **klagga** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:50 pm

You also have mellotron samples at http://www.hollowsun.com/index.html (the newtron bomb).

dhanjit · Post by **dhanjit** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:54 pm

EVE 2 and the Mellotronix soundset (uses the Hollow Sun samples) are excellent.

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:23 pm

http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=220

I need a GOOD mellotron soundset (preferably soundfont)