KVR Audio

frequency_algorithm · Post by **frequency_algorithm** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:47 am

what about sphongle or ltj bukem...talvin sungh vs. kid loco, so fricken many i can't believe you nerds! lol

Rekko11 · Post by **Rekko11** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:51 am

Thats the kind of statement made by absolute morons who can't produce the music they are talking about themselves, and have no understanding of it. Just like the armchair critic who says a football player is bad but who would absolutely suck in comparison if they themselves where on the field..

insaneacyde · Post by **insaneacyde** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:16 am

because MIDI in conjunction with Piano roll interfaces is just about the most assface way to write expressive music.

frequency_algorithm · Post by **frequency_algorithm** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:19 am

insaneacyde wrote:because MIDI in conjunction with Piano roll interfaces is just about the most assface way to write expressive music.

what's "assface?"

funkadil · Post by **funkadil** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:21 am

I disagree. With a good piano roll interface, expressive music is very intuitive and easy. What is a better way?

insaneacyde · Post by **insaneacyde** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:33 am

thoose two things on your arms.

insaneacyde · Post by **insaneacyde** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:35 am

i pick up a guitar and do a trem, hammer on, pull-off slide... i pick up my Keyboard controller and i bend the thingy....lame

Emerald Tablet · Post by **Emerald Tablet** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:35 am

the music you listen to is always as simple as your taste

btw ...simple is bliss

Lunatique · Post by **Lunatique** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:23 am

Rekko11 wrote:Thats the kind of statement made by absolute morons who can't produce the music they are talking about themselves, and have no understanding of it. Just like the armchair critic who says a football player is bad but who would absolutely suck in comparison if they themselves where on the field..

That's a bit broad of a statement? Have you actually gone and listened to the music made by all the people who have participated in this discussion?

CypherOne · Post by **CypherOne** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:47 am

can't be arsed to read the entire thread, but has anyone made the distinction between electronic music and dance music? See I would agree that dance music is by and large pretty simple, but electronic 'non-dance' can be as complicated as anything.

I think dance music needs to be simple due to the drug addled target audience. You wouldn't get clubbers saying "ooh, splendid counterpoint there and I really admire the unexpected use of Esus4" (or whatever) - they're more likely to say "oooh, these Es are great"

Besides, I would suggest that Top 40 mainstream pop and R&B is simpler than most dance music.

Arsov · Post by **Arsov** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:05 am

Two years ago Goldlust decided to make remix of my song called "Promise Me". I've sent him all material, midi files, audio files.. Two weeks later he sent me a note that he doesnt understand the harmonies used in that song. O.k. I understand that - if somebody sent me that song I will probably find lost myself too.
It's some sort of minor sounding song I wrote in a major scale with some strange harmony changes. I sent him all chords changes, main scale etc... and after while he sent me remix. He made whole song with just two chords.
Wow - it was really amazing remix - It sounds million times better than original. His remix is still one of my favorite song.

sometimes less is more

my original:
http://www.arsov.net/Net-temp/promise.mp3

and Goldlust remix:
http://www.arsov.net/Net-temp/Promise-GoldlustMix.mp3

adj · Post by **adj** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:07 am

Rekko11 wrote:Thats the kind of statement made by absolute morons who can't produce the music they are talking about themselves, and have no understanding of it. Just like the armchair critic who says a football player is bad but who would absolutely suck in comparison if they themselves where on the field..

Actually, the guy is an absolutely brilliant composer and musician. He happens to have a legitimate interest in asking such a question. Who the f**k are you?

Cheers,
Alex

adj · Post by **adj** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:15 am

CypherOne wrote:can't be arsed to read the entire thread, but has anyone made the distinction between electronic music and dance music? See I would agree that dance music is by and large pretty simple, but electronic 'non-dance' can be as complicated as anything.

I think dance music needs to be simple due to the drug addled target audience. You wouldn't get clubbers saying "ooh, splendid counterpoint there and I really admire the unexpected use of Esus4" (or whatever) - they're more likely to say "oooh, these Es are great"

Besides, I would suggest that Top 40 mainstream pop and R&B is simpler than most dance music.

That's actually a very good point. People will ALWAYS love dance music -- and why not?

I like to dance

And when I do, I like the beat simple and easy to groove to -- especially while I am looking at the girl I am dancing with -- don't want a lot of complex ethereal rhythms and thought-provoking counterpoint going on while I bounce the booty and romance the babes!

Cheers,
Alex

.jon · Post by **.jon** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:19 am

afreshcupofjoe wrote:How is electronic music any more simple than any other genre of music that has been written in the last 30 years? All I hear when I turn on the radio is the same 3 chords and simple melodies over and over again. Even jazz has been recycling the same coulpe of chord changes and basic melodic structure for some time now.

+1

The most complex (composition-technique-wise) new music I've heard would be some metal, and those attempts often fail to entertain.

stevieb19 · Post by **stevieb19** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:26 am

frequency_algorithm wrote:what about sphongle or ltj bukem...talvin sungh vs. kid loco, so fricken many i can't believe you nerds! lol

Agreed LTJ, Talvin Singh. And as the man said so many others

Why is electronic dance music typically very simple?