I think some might know the situation:
Stepping through the presets of a new soft-synth thinking "Wow, great sound. Should keep this in mind for my next tune". As I'm kinda lazy and don't write down these things too often, most of the times I cannot remember that great sound when I would need it.
Recently I had a look at Native Instruments Kore, and this might provide some solution to this misery.
For those who don't know what it does, I try to give a short description:
It's a "host in host" plugin meaning you can load VSTi's and FX into it. You can also create chains of synths and FX. Then you can save the chain as a so called "Kore sound" which contains all the presets of the plugins used for that sound and also the plugins itself.
Now the important part for me:
You can give categories like bass, piano, pad, lead, timbre etc. to the sounds which are also saved within a "Kore sound".
The sounds are stored in a database which is automatically loaded the next time you start the plugin.
So if I want to have say a bass sound, I just click on the category and see what's available and what VST's were used to create it. With a double click you can load the sound back into Kore and you don't have to fire up your synths and patches manually to find the sound that you are looking for. It also provides a search function.
Another advantage: You could easily use your sounds in other sequencers/DAWs by just loading the Kore plugin there or you could use your presets on a different machine by just tranferring the database. (Of course the synths must be installed there too).
Afaik, this is a unique concept by now as I'm not aware of any other plugin that could do this and I'd really like to see one that could do simular things. I think this could ease up the "search for the right sound" task a lot.
The reason I don't want to jump on Kore for this is, that it's kind of ovverranged and overprized for me. I don't nedd a external hardware controller and the various other functions (eg standalone live application).
What dou you think about this?
Im no developer myself but I would be interested if any of them would jump on this.
Preset management - I'd like to have something like Kore
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very angry mobster very angry mobster https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=11047
- KVRian
- 611 posts since 15 Dec, 2003 from Melbourne, Australia
Sounds like you might like Phrazor. http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2257.html
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2657 posts since 13 Mar, 2004
I had a look at Phrazor and yes, it's preset management is quite simular to what I'm looking for but still I can not assign keywords and categories on sounds, I think
Btw, I don't need another sequencer, rather a small well suited preset management tool which doesn't exist yet, afaik.
Btw, I don't need another sequencer, rather a small well suited preset management tool which doesn't exist yet, afaik.
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very angry mobster very angry mobster https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=11047
- KVRian
- 611 posts since 15 Dec, 2003 from Melbourne, Australia
I spent some time with the version 1 demo a while back. It does allow sounds to be catagorised, although i had to spend a bit of time with the manual to figure out how to do it. But it still may not be exactly what your looking for.
I haven't bought Phrazor, but i might sometime in the future. I'm not writing much music atm, and any spare cash will probably be spent on some cheap acoustic instruments.
vam
I haven't bought Phrazor, but i might sometime in the future. I'm not writing much music atm, and any spare cash will probably be spent on some cheap acoustic instruments.
vam
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- KVRAF
- 3864 posts since 29 Feb, 2004
Before buying extra software for this, take a close look at Steinberg's new VSTpreset format included in the new VST 3 standard and in Cubase 4.
It basically does all you're asking for and more.
Knowing Steinberg's position in the market and seeing that this is basically a great concept for the user (though not without bugs at this early stage), I'm pretty sure this will become the new de facto standard.
I'd think twice before buying into something else atm, not for financial reasons but for all the work you'll put into making your own tags and categories, don't ask how many hours have gone into converting most of my presets to the new standard without much tagging yet.
I'm pretty sure there will be some initial opposition from plugin developers, but in some months we'll see more and more pre-tagged vstpreset collections from the manufacturers themselves, they can hardly afford to miss that train.
Ymmv,
susiwong
It basically does all you're asking for and more.
Knowing Steinberg's position in the market and seeing that this is basically a great concept for the user (though not without bugs at this early stage), I'm pretty sure this will become the new de facto standard.
I'd think twice before buying into something else atm, not for financial reasons but for all the work you'll put into making your own tags and categories, don't ask how many hours have gone into converting most of my presets to the new standard without much tagging yet.
I'm pretty sure there will be some initial opposition from plugin developers, but in some months we'll see more and more pre-tagged vstpreset collections from the manufacturers themselves, they can hardly afford to miss that train.
Ymmv,
susiwong