Why is electronic dance music typically very simple?

[eduardo_b]

Strangely enough... it didn't have to be useless.

Actually, it wasn't bad until page...wait...about the middle of page 16.

I'm trying to decide if another batch of popcorn is in order.

[adj]

I don't know who's a troll and who isn't but from an outside perspective I'd bet dollars to donuts on adj being the problem child here.

Of course you would! An old timer and experienced, talented musician such as yourself could only come to this conclusion. Rather than stick to addressing the points I made re the topic, you felt you'd be best represented by adding another helpful comment like this one.

I understand

It's too bad too -- I had higher hopes -- you made some fairly even-handed comments earlier. I checked out your site a few weeks ago and generally like what you guys are doing there.

[Toxikator]

Well, I don't have time for 18 pages.

I tuned in at about page 16, and so far I've seen rebuttal after rebuttal made, countered with your nonsensical crap like the "give a shit o meter", and then your insistence that, in fact, RTaylor, with his thought-out arguments, is the troll, while you with your smirking and dodging and oh-so-funny .gif images are for real.

Anyways I can't tell if "An old timer...such as yourself could only come to this conclusion" is sarcasm or just misunderstanding...

[adj]

Well, I don't have time for 18 pages.

Obviously...

I tuned in at about page 16, and so far I've seen rebuttal after rebuttal made, countered with your nonsensical crap like the "give a shit o meter",

I was merely countering nonsensical crap with an equal amount of nonsensical crap.

But I think everyone is taking this all too seriously, so I've attempted some humour. As usual, petty personalities are becoming too venomous...

Anyways I can't tell if "An old timer...such as yourself could only come to this conclusion" is sarcasm or just misunderstanding...

No, it was not a misunderstanding at all -- You've said you read rebuttal after rebuttal, but just like your friend Taylor, you want to get personal if someone attempts to disagree.

If someone persists in trying to make their point heard, however humble it might be, there's no call for insult -- that's the realm of children, right?

As well, don't you think it's kind of funny when people waltz into a discussion on music, speak as if expert on it, get upset and all a-tither when people don't agree with them, and they can't display a single bar of music to validate their oh-so-authoritative claims?

It's like seeking medical advice from a garage mechanic rather than a physician.

The bottom line with me is, I certainly welcome all and sundry to debate this and that with, but when a non-musician gets shitty and full of 'tude and insulting in his insistence that he's right and those with the demonstrable experience are wrong, it's just too funny.

I want to say "lighten up" but you and your buddy Taylor are apparently too full of angst about all this to reason with.

Really too bad though -- I have to confess I've lost a lot of respect for you. But I'm sure you won't worry about it -- I mean, I'm no one at all to bother about, eh?

[Hol]

You really know a thread's disintegrated when the phrase "ad hominem" gets rolled out . . . anyway, I'll settle this once and for all

Why is electronic dance music typically very simple?

Ecstacy.

[adj]

To reiterate my point:

Music theory is valid and important, and I have heaps of knowledge and schooling in music theory and demonstrably so, but it is not a prerequisite for making great music.

Some musicians have a 'natural talent/aptitude' that may defy the academic's dogma, just as some are astonishingly predisposed to draw wonderful pictures or write amazing and thoughtful poetry or prose without a stick of schooling.

Psycho-acoustic theory, historical data and so on are largely irrelevant when it comes to music appreciation for the majority of listeners and composers (though academically appealing it may be).

Mozart, for example, had not much more than a rudimentary knowledge of notation and theory when he first sat at his mechanically-plucked clavier, yet produced masterpieces of wonderfully sensitive music.

So, there's plenty of evidence to support my wee little point.

As well, Tupac, though I don't care so much for that sort of music (though 'Shorty Wanna Be a Thug' is pretty cool), is/was a cultural phenomenon and represents that kind of instance in which popular musical taste can swing to a radical departure from those expected by academia or the musical elite of the moment. We can rant and rave about how horrible it is, or how hideously simple and revolting some disco music might be, but we risk arrogance and elitism -- as musicians -- by invalidating it, so I don't agree with that sort of position at all.

[advaya]

Why is electronic dance music typically very simple?

Ecstacy.

A satisfactory conclusion to this thread!

[adj]

Why is electronic dance music typically very simple?

Ecstacy.

A satisfactory conclusion to this thread!

You have to wonder where 'Rave' would be, or even 'Tarnce' without Ecstacy...

[RTaylor]

I tuned in at about page 16, and so far I've seen rebuttal after rebuttal made, countered with your nonsensical crap like the "give a shit o meter", and then your insistence that, in fact, RTaylor, with his thought-out arguments, is the troll, while you with your smirking and dodging and oh-so-funny .gif images are for real.

Thanks, but you shouldn't bother. It won't go anywhere and you'll feel "unclean" when you're done with it.

[RTaylor]

Strangely enough... it didn't have to be useless.

Actually, it wasn't bad until page...wait...about the middle of page 16.

I'm trying to decide if another batch of popcorn is in order.

You remember that rule about pointing a loaded mailer at the ground?

I wish I could.