Batch sampling of VST synths?

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safeaim wrote:http://www.extranslator.com/info.html


VSTi CONVERTER:

- converting virtual synth to different formats.

- support for plugins without their own gui.

- choosing a patch or bank also possible.
Thanks for that suggestion but still no luck. :(

It seems that Extreme Sample Converter also doesn't automatcially convert the whole VSTi patch bank to WAVs. You have to manually go through each preset which would take weeks.

Maybe I am doing something wrong?

If somebody manages to automatically convert a whole VSTi preset bank to WAVs, please let me know how you did it.

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Just wanted to check again if anyone figured out how to automatically batch-sample a whole VST synth bank of presets into WAVs. Please, there must be a way :)

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...if you use Ableton Live the easiest and cheapest trick would be setting up a template (one clip per note) and freezing the track. all you'd have to do is to change the presets manually (would be faster than entering the program CC in the clip). Otherwise EXSC3 is the best option for that. Other alternatives that come to mind are SampleRobot, which is capable of sampling a synth with every single preset and even auto-looping, but it is very expensive. Another option would be Samplit from CD Xtract, but I'm not sure if it supports sampling of VSTis...

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loachm wrote:...if you use Ableton Live the easiest and cheapest trick would be setting up a template (one clip per note) and freezing the track. all you'd have to do is to change the presets manually (would be faster than entering the program CC in the clip). Otherwise EXSC3 is the best option for that. Other alternatives that come to mind are SampleRobot, which is capable of sampling a synth with every single preset and even auto-looping, but it is very expensive. Another option would be Samplit from CD Xtract, but I'm not sure if it supports sampling of VSTis...
Thanks for your recommendations.

EXSC3 doesn't automatically sample a whole patch bank:( You have to do each preset one at a time.

Are you sure that SampleRobot can sample VST synths, not just hardware? Don't see any info about VST instruments in the manual.

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http://www.samplerobot.com/funktionalitaet_b.htm

...read the third line. But out of interest - why do you want to sample an entire VSTi - to lower your CPU load? I also thought about that some years ago but with today's freezing options you can save some CPU load and still remain the tweakability. Ableton Live is really the best program for that and with little effort you can also use it as a sampling tool. And if you'd still want to use a VSTi preset for further sound mangling in your sampler, something like EXSC3 does this in the twinkling of an eye...

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Extreme Sample Converter can sample both hardware and software synths.

Its a useful tool.

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I have tried a demo of SampleRobot and Extreme Sample Converter and I can't manage to do this.

Could someone quickly run me through the steps of how to accomplish my goal in either SampleRobot or Extreme Sample Converter?

Once again, just as a reminder, my goal is to automatically convert a whole VSTi bank of presets into individual one-note WAV samples.

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so far i ve done it with Highlife, but cannot load presets or banks of the vsti's loaded, i have to make the desired preset and that its not so cool. I just saw Directwave and im courious how can i sample a vsti, can someone explain me?.

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superddman wrote:my goal is to automatically convert a whole VSTi bank of presets into individual one-note WAV samples.
* you lose tweakability and expressiveness of the VSTi
* you will fill your harddisk to the brim

I understand the reason you're doing this is lack of CPU power. Why not use the freeze function of your host?
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Go to DirectWave 'OPTIONS' (a big button in top of the vumeter that says 'OPTIONS') and a dialog will appear with the VST host/sampling functionality. (and check the help file , all explained there).
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BertKoor wrote:
superddman wrote:my goal is to automatically convert a whole VSTi bank of presets into individual one-note WAV samples.
* you lose tweakability and expressiveness of the VSTi
* you will fill your harddisk to the brim

I understand the reason you're doing this is lack of CPU power. Why not use the freeze function of your host?
Agreed, in the event of an entire bank being rendered or converted you will loose the original synths functions on the instrument. This is why people have suggested freezing. I don't know of anything that will automatically grab/dump the whole bank (with multi layering stacking etc). I miss the days when you could do sysex dumps and the like.. Are you planning on using these WAV files in a sampler after the fact? If yes I would use Highlife or OneShotRecorder to get close to the original.. Actually you could try this little Xhip snag plug aciddose put together for me..

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BertKoor wrote: Why not use the freeze function of your host?
Why not just record audio tracks and mix those?

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Also try Phrazor Dont know if it'l be any faster but you can save and reus presets etc..
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Hmm, didn't know Phrazor could do this. I will give it a shot, thanks.

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Whatever is the point of stuffing your hard disk with dead samples? :roll:

Yeah, dead! Unless you multisample each patch at decent note intervals AND at several velocities AND possibly with several settings of the mod wheel AND take the time to build sample banks that take advantage of the different modulations you have sampled, your songs will sound dead. No life. Muerte. Tot. Gestorben. Död. Mort. You get my drift?

The point of a VSTi is playability - to add expression to your playing using any and all of the available controls (velocity, CC#!, CC#11, aftertouch, et cetera, et cetera...)

Many VSTi patches have dramatic changes of tone color as you tweak the MW or CC#11. How would your dreamt up automatic sampling process be able to figure out which tone colour you prefer?

This whole idea seems completely daft to me... :-o

/Joey

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