I think there was a 909 machine for Buzz that was taken down from several sites after legal pressure from Roland...John Vulich wrote:Has Roland actually even bothered to pursue anybody that sampled these instruments without permission?
what are the laws for sampling 909,606,707's?
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- KVRAF
- 16861 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
We are the KVR collective. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. 
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
Yes, some friends of mine who used to sell sample sets for the Kurzweil K2000 got a letter from Roland's lawyers. Needless to say, they pulled those samples off the market...John Vulich wrote:Has Roland actually even bothered to pursue anybody that sampled these instruments without permission?spectrum wrote:It is not legal without permission from Roland. However, a lot of folks have done it illegally. So it is a risk that you may get caught....
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.
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- KVRian
- 795 posts since 2 Apr, 2006
I don't think it's illegal to sample those machines and spread the samples. They're instruments. You can sample your violin and spread the samples.
It is however illegal to use the name I suppose. Roland owns the various names and trademarks, so if you're using them to make money, they'll want a piece of the cake.
It is however illegal to use the name I suppose. Roland owns the various names and trademarks, so if you're using them to make money, they'll want a piece of the cake.
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- KVRist
- 440 posts since 11 Jul, 2003
Sadly whether they are instruments or not is irrelevant. As long as they incorporate PCM samples they are "recordings" first and foremost and are thus protected by copyright.
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- Banned
- 1842 posts since 4 Aug, 2004 from just right here
Not always, older machines are electonic and the new ones in general are samples The same whith keyboards in general. There are plenty of samples of drum machines on the net to download. I don't know why Roland for example does not persue the distribution of samples of their machines. Maybe cause these machines were out long ago and they are a bit late to realize whith the latest technology? If you buy an analog electronic drumachine, it is yours to do whith what you like. But, the new Roland stuff is all samples so distributing them might be some kind of copy right infringement. But the thing is the new Roland machines might use samples from the old.......so....I don't know? Its a bit latttttteeeeee..................loomchild wrote:Sadly whether they are instruments or not is irrelevant. As long as they incorporate PCM samples they are "recordings" first and foremost and are thus protected by copyright.
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- KVRist
- 440 posts since 11 Jul, 2003
=>"As long as they incorporate PCM samples" = ie when the said machine relies partly or entirely on pcm samples.Rangtangtang wrote:Not always, older machines are electonic and the new ones in general are samples The same whith keyboards in general. There are plenty of samples of drum machines on the net to download. I don't know why Roland for example does not persue the distribution of samples of their machines. Maybe cause these machines were out long ago and they are a bit late to realize whith the latest technology? If you buy an analog electronic drumachine, it is yours to do whith what you like. But, the new Roland stuff is all samples so distributing them might be some kind of copy right infringement. But the thing is the new Roland machines might use samples from the old.......so....I don't know? Its a bit latttttteeeeee..................loomchild wrote:Sadly whether they are instruments or not is irrelevant. As long as they incorporate PCM samples they are "recordings" first and foremost and are thus protected by copyright.