KVR Audio

aetmos · Post by **aetmos** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:48 pm

In the case of headphones, yes, clearly it's a psychoacoustic effect. But it's also a physical effect, as it can be shown on an oscilloscope when played back on monitors.

And yes, you can hear beating at 2Hz. It's not a 2Hz tone, it's the decreasing and increasing of an audible signal at a rate of 2Hz. If you clap your hands at a rate of 2Hz (two times per second), I certainly hope you can hear that.

adj · Post by **adj** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:38 pm

aetmos wrote:...If you clap your hands at a rate of 2Hz (two times per second), I certainly hope you can hear that.

Depends on the amplitude.

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:43 am

So, if you clap one hand at 4Hz, does it sound the same as two hands at 2Hz?

camsr · Post by **camsr** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:45 am

I think the more important question is, Does it make that sound?

martian · Post by **martian** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:28 pm

Toxikator wrote:The thing is most high-end headphones DO interact with the pinna, as they are the "rest on the outside of your ears" headphones, not earbuds.

you dont understand how the comb filtering at the pinna works then.

you should at least be able to notice the massive changes in sound when you 'open' an ear to your speakers. why do you think horizontal (equilateral triangle) and vertical (tweefer/woofer level) placement standards for speakers is so important?

monaural localisation cues are very relevent: primer.

AndrewAD · Post by **AndrewAD** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:08 pm

I don't think it's been mentioned yet: Unlike monitors, headphones block out a ton of environmental noise. On one hand, headphones allow you to 'monitor' quiet parts of your audio that might be masked by noise when listening on monitors.

On the other hand, one aspect of a good mix might be its interaction with noise in the listening environments. I want my mixes to have the same amount of 'air' sound as my listening environments have. So mixing on monitors, with respect to environmental noise, could give an advantage.

I mix on both KRK 8 monitors and on ATF-M40fs phones, and my mixes are the worst of anyone's here. In conclusion, headphones and monitors are both bad

Fhangor · Post by **Fhangor** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:13 pm

Maybe all mixes are only dependent on the talent of the mixer himself. Nevertheless they mix with headphones or with monitors: it fits anyways...

aetmos · Post by **aetmos** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:19 pm

AndrewAD wrote:I mix on both KRK 8 monitors and on ATF-M40fs phones, and my mixes are the worst of anyone's here. In conclusion, headphones and monitors are both bad

lol

Fhangor · Post by **Fhangor** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:15 am

Does anyone know something about Sensheisser HD25SP and AKG K141 Studio? Which one is better? I have decide to mix again via headphones after reading all your pros and cons. Because of my budget I want to buy one of these...

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:37 am

Which is the better headphone? Wrong question... Better question: which ones suits YOU best? Only one good answer to that: Go to a shop and listen for yourself. ONLY YOU can decide which is better. Because it depends on taste.

Bring some of your own well-produced CDs to the shop with some diverse and critical listening material. Stuff you know well and know how it should sound.

Fhangor · Post by **Fhangor** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:18 am

Good advice. Thanx. I always forget the personal impact...

Headphones vs. Monitors