Modern use of Ancient Modes????
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- KVRist
- 254 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
Thanks for clearing up that mode information all, much appreciated. I will have a read of those threads.
On the topic of psytrance and Takyon etc though, do you not think that the high majority of psytrance that has the middle eastern or ancient modal sound, is often not a musician working within a 'mode', but rather a producer laying down a 16th bassline in "e" (for example), and then randomly working out a melody (based around e), usually using increments of semitones or tones? Which may well 'conveniently' fall into one of the modes?
Because I know I've seen a lot of producers do it that way. As a friend once said to me YEARS ago, many of the old goa lines were just 3 consecutive notes (2-1-2-3-2-1-2-3-2-1-2-3) with a lot of filter cutoff, resonance and envelope tweaking! Not to put this concept down! I will indeed try and apply modes to progressive trance/psytrance (where afaik modes are even rarer than in psytrance?) once I get my head around it again!
On the topic of psytrance and Takyon etc though, do you not think that the high majority of psytrance that has the middle eastern or ancient modal sound, is often not a musician working within a 'mode', but rather a producer laying down a 16th bassline in "e" (for example), and then randomly working out a melody (based around e), usually using increments of semitones or tones? Which may well 'conveniently' fall into one of the modes?
Because I know I've seen a lot of producers do it that way. As a friend once said to me YEARS ago, many of the old goa lines were just 3 consecutive notes (2-1-2-3-2-1-2-3-2-1-2-3) with a lot of filter cutoff, resonance and envelope tweaking! Not to put this concept down! I will indeed try and apply modes to progressive trance/psytrance (where afaik modes are even rarer than in psytrance?) once I get my head around it again! -
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 70 posts since 24 Jan, 2007
possibly, I mean who knows how they did it... Now that I understand modes myself, I always try to see if I can come up with something that is not in Ionian or Aeolian, but its not easy, I'll need more practice. And in the case of Takyon, if I want to make a track that steps up to them, I'll have to do much more than understand modes... hahaEoN604 wrote:On the topic of psytrance and Takyon etc though, do you not think that the high majority of psytrance that has the middle eastern or ancient modal sound, is often not a musician working within a 'mode', but rather a producer laying down a 16th bassline in "e" (for example)
By I guess its up to you, all this modal theory, it sort of grounded me and made me realise that at some point, you have to experiment with a few things and trust your ear, theory can give you some inspiration, but anything good should have to come from experimenting, practice and hard dedicated work and not only from knowing how the theory works. I guess you can work with modes however you want, as long as you are able to make it work... and that's what I'm still working on, my 2 cents....