the question is not: how many people like your music, but does it work? does it have internal integrity? is it lean? without fluff? does it have what joyce described as art: claritas, veritas, and consonontia?ATS wrote:"I realize that in the end, the only person that my music has to satisfy is myself"
honestly I think this might be a problem for some people because they make music that no one really likes except for them and maybe two other people. I rather try to music that maybe say 1 of 100 people will like instead of 1 in 10000.
I am turning into a theory slut
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- KVRian
- 661 posts since 15 Jun, 2004 from blue america
overthrow KRAPITALISM ! you have nothing to lose but your claims.
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deaf dunderkwac deaf dunderkwac https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=78199
- KVRAF
- 5247 posts since 15 Aug, 2005 from RainLand featuring RAinRAinRAin
haha i don't s-peek latinaaastronomer wrote:the question is not: how many people like your music, but does it work? does it have internal integrity? is it lean? without fluff? does it have what joyce described as art: claritas, veritas, and consonontia?ATS wrote:"I realize that in the end, the only person that my music has to satisfy is myself"
honestly I think this might be a problem for some people because they make music that no one really likes except for them and maybe two other people. I rather try to music that maybe say 1 of 100 people will like instead of 1 in 10000.
ATS is apparently interested in the fame as opposed to the creation.
I make music in the same way other people paint, carve stone or any other method of emotional release.
That's my camp and I'm not moving.
Therefor, why in the world would I be interested in amusing anyone other then myself?
I present pieces on teh internets not because I want to show off as much as I just want to scream out <expleative>
Having spent the better part (best? worst?) of my life learning music notation, I spent the last few years re-learning notation directly in a sequencer program and find the piano-roll method to be quicker, more intuitive and easier to inter-putte then traditional scoring.
I think, and this is only my opinion, that teaching sequencer notation instead of more traditional methods would possibly allow a greater number of people to appreciate and achieve a better understanding of music in how it relates to emotional manipulation. (I was hoping to run that sentence on a few more pages)
but then again I'm an idiot.
for entertaining porpoises only
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- KVRAF
- 1975 posts since 4 Feb, 2005
Lots of people love to say that they write music only for themselves, but it's not true. Everyone has a deep-seated urge to share their creations because they want validation.
Besides, even IF you only write music for your own personal validation, then would it not still be fair to call it sh*trotten music?
Besides, even IF you only write music for your own personal validation, then would it not still be fair to call it sh*trotten music?
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- KVRist
- 149 posts since 27 Jan, 2007 from Eyeth
Even if you don't know the theory, it still works. It explains what our ears already know - after all, acoustical principles, our musical memory and perception always work the same way and determine the theory behind music, determine aesthetical points in the rules and styles, and so on. But when you know and understand all this stuff, it helps you to understand music logically and to better fuse thoughts and feelings when creating music, thus making the process easier and even faster; it helps you to organize your work.
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deaf dunderkwac deaf dunderkwac https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=78199
- KVRAF
- 5247 posts since 15 Aug, 2005 from RainLand featuring RAinRAinRAin
please do...Toxikator wrote:Lots of people love to say that they write music only for themselves, but it's not true. Everyone has a deep-seated urge to share their creations because they want validation.
Besides, even IF you only write music for your own personal validation, then would it not still be fair to call it sh*trotten music?
I'm only interested in capturing a moment in time in an emotional context.
other medias are available for other users.
I also found amusement in annoying other humans (the sharing part)
...so why do you make sh*trotten music?
for entertaining porpoises only
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- KVRian
- 1128 posts since 3 Aug, 2004
that's the pointnuffink wrote:Sound advice from a true genius.Col.G wrote:"Master your instrument, Master the music, and then forget all that shit and just play." - Charlie Parker
Its a shame so many muso's only hear "Forget all that shit and just play."
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- KVRAF
- 6519 posts since 13 Mar, 2002 from UK
Posted: 04 Jan 2006 09:03loopdon wrote:that's the pointnuffink wrote:Sound advice from a true genius.Col.G wrote:"Master your instrument, Master the music, and then forget all that shit and just play." - Charlie Parker
Its a shame so many muso's only hear "Forget all that shit and just play."
Sorry. The statute of limitations has expired on this post. Please find a more recent post to comment on.
This has been a public service announcement.
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deaf dunderkwac deaf dunderkwac https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=78199
- KVRAF
- 5247 posts since 15 Aug, 2005 from RainLand featuring RAinRAinRAin
don't you think there might be a hindering element to the mechanics of notation vs. the playing?
I know I was stymied many a time trying to get the mechanics of a performance unto paper.
If I composed to paper before performance I was subjected to the fact (laziness/whatever) I only wrote what I know how to document.
When I composed via performance I found myself musing subjectively about how teh f*k am I gonna notate that last bit? Thusly inhibiting experimentation.
On soloing I allowed my mind to disconnect from my body, relying instead on practised bits to loosely tie themselves into an overall statement.
ramblin' on...
I know I was stymied many a time trying to get the mechanics of a performance unto paper.
If I composed to paper before performance I was subjected to the fact (laziness/whatever) I only wrote what I know how to document.
When I composed via performance I found myself musing subjectively about how teh f*k am I gonna notate that last bit? Thusly inhibiting experimentation.
On soloing I allowed my mind to disconnect from my body, relying instead on practised bits to loosely tie themselves into an overall statement.
ramblin' on...
for entertaining porpoises only
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 445 posts since 24 Apr, 2005
I am now.aaastronomer wrote: are you at the point where you can start out with just a scheme (say, a visual analog, a set of keys to bridge between, and a motif), then write out the whole piece without resort to a musical instrument of any kind, and have it (mostly) work the very first time?
Of course, now the problem is sitting down at my DAW and resisting the urge to churn out another 8 looping bars of perfectly produced sound that takes up 95% CPU.

