Nonstandard notation systems

[vurt]

dont know of any actual rexource for this stuff but i have found the odd bit here n there over the years when searching through various composers wiki/sites/fan sites and so on.
perhaps a book on such a subject might not be a bad idea once you have yer qualifications ...

[vurt]

ps... and altho not strictly what youre looking for and im sure you know them already but eno's oblique strategies may be worth some investigation for some background on non standard notation.

[whyterabbyt]

"Music visualisation"? Except that you want the reverse - auralisation of a visual image.

Ive been trying variants on that sort of thing, and a lot of it gets into 'visual music', ie this sort of stuff:




... and basically a lot of abstract video/image/installation art. Its kind of 'the wrong way round' for my research, ie the visuals are the end-product. Some fascinating stuff, but just a footnote's worth of relevance unfortunately. There's some stuff tangential to Oramics and similar systems, where the visuals are the score as well, but its mostly 'interprative' visuals.

[hao nao]

I like Ligeti's:

[herodotus]

I am going to dare to be pedestrian and bring up TUBS, which is quite useful for dealing with measured but discontinuous music.

Probably not what you are looking for, but I thought 'someone might find it useful', and there you have it.

[Toxikator]

for guys like us, seems like the most capable and least restricting form of notation is a .wav file.

[runagate]

I don't know if anyone's mentioned it but there's one made by some people from the yahoo scala group that I had a .pdf all about on my broken laptop... maybe I can find it - it's genius.

[whyterabbyt]

Thanks Havran for that Ligeti piece. Not seen that before, its wonderful. And TUBS is another useful reference, thanks.
Runagate; I'll have a Google for anything related to Scala, see if I can find it myself.

[Gregjazz]

The equitone system isn't really as "artistic" as these ones people are posting, but it's interesting all the same. It makes a lot more sense than the system we use in terms of pitches and rhythms...

[tee boy]

I think I have a couple of Penderecki scores on my other comp. Will let you have them if you'd be interested.

Its not THAT abstract, but a good intro to alternative scoring I think.

TB

[aciddose]

we also have tracker notation, i'm not sure if this is the sort of thing you're refering to, but it would make anybody trained in classical notation immediately choke to death.

http://www.matthewdoucette.com/musiccomposition/ft2.png

just about every guy i know who does music with hardware draws out tracks as part of the composition process. a majority of the time no "real" notation is ever produced. the drawings tend to look a lot like the first few images posted in this thread.

i remember once being told "it isnt really like a drawing of the track.. it is more like a map for the inside of my head. i cant compose without one, i just get lost."

[vurt]

for guys like us, seems like the most capable and least restricting form of notation is a .wav file.

interesting angle, care to explain further?
i personally see the wav as the end product from any form of notation, standard or not...
having said that im always interested in new ways of seeing things, hence my interest in this thread i guess.

[whyterabbyt]

Any further thoughts? Well, ones related to the original post, that is.

[herodotus]

Any further thoughts? Well, ones related to the original post, that is.

I found this one by John Cage:

And these two from Cornelius Cardew:




The latter are actually from a huge graphic score for his work called Treatise

[shamann]

Here's a gallery to some (some of which you've posted already):

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2007/01/g ... _musi.html

And here's an outline of some course material on developing graphic notation systems:

http://www20.brinkster.com/improarchive ... gno3uk.htm