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[quote=himalaya]...ever heard Beauborg?[/quote]

Well, I'm a vangelisian since 20 years by now ;)

Beaubourg is a big expression exercise: what he did with that ringmodulator you can do it alright with any external modulator (unless you want *that* timbre which us unique because of those distortions) ; the tones were very basic ones, mostly the presets with some tweakings on the SubOsc through aftertouch, and the heavy use of , ditto, ringmodulator. I know nothing about how to program things, but I did a CS80 ringmodulator model which runs on Synthedit only, I'd like to build even the rest of it and go for , say, a CS50V, but until that I must learn C++ and DSP first , or get some help from anybody....
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pepelogu wrote:Okay HHay[n]es, since you so militantly fights for CS-80v:s honour (god knows why) lets hear something to back up your claims, like some presets or at least mp3s.
Wait a second - I'm *not* "militantly fighting" for anything. I was just countering all of the wanking about the CS-80V being "nothing like" the original. What's with all of the simplistic rhetoric?

:roll:

It's not perfect - but it's very good. And like omissis, I've given a list of requested bug fixes and feature improvements to Arturia, and from what I've read on the Arturia forum, he and I have some overlap in that department.

As far as demos and mp3 are concerned - Why should I care whether or not you approve of my music? There's lots of stuff on my site that uses the CS-80V, it's just not a Vangelis knock-off - sue me. It's doesn't invalidate my opinion. If you want something to hang your hat on - go to my review of the CS-80V on audioMIDI.com - pull the mp3 snippet there (that shows how it responds to polyphonic aftertouch) and add some EQ, spacey stereo delay and a big fat gob of reverb - set it to loop and pretend you're back in 1975.

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HHaynes wrote:
pepelogu wrote:Okay HHay[n]es, since you so militantly fights for CS-80v:s honour (god knows why) lets hear something to back up your claims, like some presets or at least mp3s.
Wait a second - I'm *not* "militantly fighting" for anything. I was just countering all of the wanking about the CS-80V being "nothing like" the original. What's with all of the simplistic rhetoric?

:roll:

It's not perfect - but it's very good. And like omissis, I've given a list of requested bug fixes and feature improvements to Arturia, and from what I've read on the Arturia forum, he and I have some overlap in that department.

As far as demos and mp3 are concerned - Why should I care whether or not you approve of my music? There's lots of stuff on my site that uses the CS-80V, it's just not a Vangelis knock-off - sue me. It's doesn't invalidate my opinion. If you want something to hang your hat on - go to my review of the CS-80V on audioMIDI.com - pull the mp3 snippet there (that shows how it responds to polyphonic aftertouch) and add some EQ, spacey stereo delay and a big fat gob of reverb - set it to loop and pretend you're back in 1975.

:idiot:
What you call wanking i call opinion. Your tone discourages further discussion and is really uncalled for.
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Pepelogu
No militance here, if my speech was about that I would have went on waxing high and lyrical about how wonderful it sounds, don't you think? Anyway , if you have any other curiosity about it you can listen to this example of poly aftertouch, nicely done by Bart Garrat who is one of the most competent about CS80V, check it out

http://idisk.mac.com/bgarratt/Public/CS ... /CSolo.mp3
[...]pull the mp3 snippet there (that shows how it responds to polyphonic aftertouch) and add some EQ, spacey stereo delay and a big fat gob of reverb - set it to loop and pretend you're back in 1975.
:D
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I found that article about Vangelis in Ode magazine. It's a great read.
http://www.odemagazine.com/article.php?aID=3862
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all i can say is: dot.
he nailed it pretty much, moreover: when you listen to his music, you can mostly hear exactly his aproach ...
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DJ_Bach wrote:I found that article about Vangelis in Ode magazine. It's a great read.
http://www.odemagazine.com/article.php?aID=3862
The guy talks alot of sense :tu:
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I think the idea that you'd be able to get a Vangelis-esque sound from just one synth is a little optimistic. A big part of the way he developed his sound was the layering of parts one by one on top of each other. He also used a lot of effects and processing during tracking rather than mixing. Check out http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1997_ar ... gelis.html for more.
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Hi!

I made a patch for Vaz Modular that I think recreates the typical CS-80 brass. I have never played the real one. I've just heard sounds on internet.

In the demo there is the brass-patch and a bass-patch (also Vaz Modular)

Watch your speakers! Vaz is a wild beast! :)

http://www.kiresounds.se/downloads/Vazcs80.mp3
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Kire wrote:Hi!

I made a patch for Vaz Modular that I think recreates the typical CS-80 brass. I have never played the real one. I've just heard sounds on internet.

In the demo there is the brass-patch and a bass-patch (also Vaz Modular)

Watch your speakers! Vaz is a wild beast! :)

http://www.kiresounds.se/downloads/Vazcs80.mp3
Hey Kire,

as we can hear in that demo, VAZ is way more able to emulate a realistic Vangelis sound than CS-80V....

Very nice patch...
VAZ is really cool stuff... a little too sharp at the top range somethimes...
and a little bit modulation is missing ....
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HHaynes wrote: You've got to be kidding me. Do you think that Vangelis just plugged his CS-80 directly into a recording deck and mixed it dry? [...] You can get an approximation of it with pre-canned synths like Atmosphere because the movement is already built into the sound - and a great deal of that stems from the synths that were sampled to create the original sound bed.
You are absolutely correct. I stand corrected.
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Here's Vangelis, showing the capabilities of a certain synth...

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omissis wrote:Pepelogu
No militance here, if my speech was about that I would have went on waxing high and lyrical about how wonderful it sounds, don't you think? Anyway , if you have any other curiosity about it you can listen to this example of poly aftertouch, nicely done by Bart Garrat who is one of the most competent about CS80V, check it out

http://idisk.mac.com/bgarratt/Public/CS ... /CSolo.mp3
[...]pull the mp3 snippet there (that shows how it responds to polyphonic aftertouch) and add some EQ, spacey stereo delay and a big fat gob of reverb - set it to loop and pretend you're back in 1975.
:D
Sorry and I mean no offence, but that example just sounds thin. I can't really describe it...but it really doesn't have the cream and cutting sound that the CS-80 real has.I wish it did as that's one of my all time favourite synth sounds along with the Eminent organ string.
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hifiboom wrote:
Kire wrote:Hi!

I made a patch for Vaz Modular that I think recreates the typical CS-80 brass. I have never played the real one. I've just heard sounds on internet.

In the demo there is the brass-patch and a bass-patch (also Vaz Modular)

Watch your speakers! Vaz is a wild beast! :)

http://www.kiresounds.se/downloads/Vazcs80.mp3
Hey Kire,

as we can hear in that demo, VAZ is way more able to emulate a realistic Vangelis sound than CS-80V....

Very nice patch...
VAZ is really cool stuff... a little too sharp at the top range somethimes...
and a little bit modulation is missing ....
Have to agree hear, the Vaz example sounds way thicker and analog. I'll have to check that vsti out :)
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