liveslice 1.45 beta thread

[ohm]

I've been away on vacation, will get back to coding very soon, so stay tuned

[parris]

Thanks Ohm for the update.

There is no life in my studio without liveSlice.............

[musikmachine]

Thanks Ohm for the update.

There is no life in my studio without liveSlice.............

Would you care to expand...

I use ableton which liveslice has been compared to,is that what you like so much about it?

[parris]

I use live & Cubase 4 rewired & for me i just like the way liveslice works, it is much faster to cut up loops into very small bits which just can't be done in live. That's way users on the forum keep asking ableton for a loop slicer.

I know aphex twin compared the two but i think they are different animals. The way i use live is as an idea's pad for loops that I've made elsewhere, like reaktor liveslice microtonic Kontakt e.t.c. then put them in cubase for more vst fun & most of the time back into liveslice then bounce my new edits for the arrangement.

Live is mainly used for it's on the fly timestreching & warp markers. Not loop rearrangement. In liveslice being able to drag & drop hits from any loop all in the same window is class,also the random feature is shit hot. I could go on forever. but got to go...........


Parris........

[musikmachine]

I use live & Cubase 4 rewired & for me i just like the way liveslice works, it is much faster to cut up loops into very small bits which just can't be done in live. That's way users on the forum keep asking ableton for a loop slicer.

Thats very true.I forgot i had a few problems with liveslice which is why i stopped using it but the latest beta seems to be a lot more stable.It is a great plugin and i can see it's going to be a staple in my plugin folder

I know aphex twin compared the two but i think they are different animals. The way i use live is as an idea's pad for loops that I've made elsewhere, like reaktor liveslice microtonic Kontakt e.t.c. then put them in cubase for more vst fun & most of the time back into liveslice then bounce my new edits for the arrangement.

Oh no doubt they are different.I mean 64 tracks of audio in ableton and it would be a major pita to slice em all up and kinda time consuming too no thanks!

Live is mainly used for it's on the fly timestreching & warp markers. Not loop rearrangement. In liveslice being able to drag & drop hits from any loop all in the same window is class,also the random feature is shit hot. I could go on forever. but got to go...........

Nuff said

[ohm]

Hi ppl. beta 6 is out. check your inboxes

# fixed crashes related to copying and deleting events and tracks (BR 60 and 64)
# fixed crash related to undo
# right click dice button to \"un randomize\" a track works again
# switching between relative and absolute mode on the envelope recalculates the AHD parameters to preserve the duration of events
# rare crash related to very rapid preving fixed
# added stretch parameters - relative mode now limited to 100% of the stertched (and or re-pitched) duration. Absolute mode still allows stretching using AHD
# left clicking a parameter will de-select \"lock\" so you only move a single parameter at a time (right click a parameter icon to activate \"lock\") - experimental
# the arrangement configured for individual slices playback can now be triggered like any other arrangement (was locked before)
# the \"arrangement playing\" indicator was not updated when the spacebar / playbutton was used to play the current arrangement
# Now using popup menus to do all midi configuration
# Probably some more changes I forgot to write down...

[Caleb]

Hey ohm - which BETA number will have the REX2 import?



Regards
Caleb

[apropos]

edit: thanks for the beta ohm, looking forward to the future of liveslice!

[ohm]

ohm, check your pms please!! i've been trying to get ahold of you for more than a month - i'm a registered user and you're not giving me the betas for 1.45. what's the deal? what's a guy gotta do around here to get a beta?

you have mail, at last. Sorry about the delay, but you gave me a wrong email adress in the first pm's. I'm quite sure I replied, but I might have forgotten the gmail one was correct, so here you go. You haven't missed much, betas 1-5 were quite buggy compared to this one

[GilJ]

[LiveSlice v145b6]

BR1/ LiveSlice, LiveSliceEffect don't record audio
Recording audio still isn't working with the latest beta (sure for LiveSliceEffect, can someone please confirm for LiveSlice?)

BR2/ Bank tabs display problem on closing & reopening GUI
1- Load LiveSlice
2- Lock a loop on a track in the C1 arrangement for example
3- Select bank 2 tab
Close & reopen GUI: Bank 1 tab is selected, but actually it seems that it is Bank 2 that is really 'active'

BR3/ 'Red box' display problem on arrangements
1- Load LiveSlice
2- Click on Play
3- The first arrangement gets highlightened with the red box
Select Bank 2 tab, the red box is still present (but for the C3 arrangement)
Close & reopen GUI, the red box has gone

BR4/ Copying events and selection of destination track (don't know if it's really a BR?)
In the same arrangement, when copying events from one track to another (let's say from track 1 to track 6), the arranger scrolls back to the first track. It's quite confusing as I'd rather expect the track where I've pasted the event to be selected


Cheers,
GilJ.

[DarkStar]

3 confirmed :
GilJ Br2 = my BR 039
GilJ Br3 = my BR 024
GilJ Br4 = my FR 019

[GilJ]

Thanks Darkstar (sorry I didn't make the link with your previous BR/FR )

Can someone please confirm that it's not possible to record audio in LiveSlice? It's a function that i use quite a lot, and I'm quite sad it has not been working with the latest betas which were released (Host=Live; plugin=LiveSliceEffect)

Cheers,
GilJ.

[Former Pharaoh]

Can someone please confirm that it's not possible to record audio in LiveSlice?

It's working here. However, is anyone else having sluggish issues??? I am using latest EXT2 beta as well as XT 1.4.
Liveslice operates as if it were using a high CPU percentage (slow in responding to mouse actions etc.) yet my CPU shows very low usage.

I also notice that when you use the reverse effect, the slice(s) effected sound distorted. It's somewhat of a "static" distortion sound.

[DarkStar]

GilJ - no problem, I confuse myself at times, so would not expect anyone else to know what ones I had posted!

I like the [Autostretch} and [Stretch] controls.

And here's my updates:

Fixed BRs
BR 066 - Right-click to keep Randomised track works again
BR 065 - [AHD] scale values are copied when copying events
BR 064 - Changing [H] scale mode changes copied events in other track
BR 063 - Changing [D] scale changes waveform graphics and parameter bar
BR 060 - Access violation -reading address 0 -none seen
BR 059 - the parameters values are not displaced to the left any more
BR 029 - changing from [sel loop] works again

Cancelled BRs
The functionality in these areas has been reworked in 145 beta 6, so this can be cancelled
BR 034 - Changing waveform display when adjusting [Decay]


New BRs
BR 070 - Beats value resets to zero
When I select another loop in the Loops section, the beats value gets reset to zero.

BR 069 - [A] parameter bar is not easily seen
When at the bottom of the event (the initial value)
- can a different colour be used for the bar?

BR 068 - Graphics errors
I get odd graphics errors every so often - lines in the background and in the slicer.
See the screenshot

Big pic:
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1301/lsbr068alg0.png


BR 067 - Changing Absolute scale changes parameter values
When you change the Absolute scale for [A], [H] or [D]
For example
- the initial [H] scale was 192 ms absolute and the event's [H] value was 187ms
- I changed the scale to 300ms and the event's [H] value changed to 291ms
- and the length of the displayed waveform increased proportionately
- the event internal value (say 97%) is kept
-- the new event value = 97% x 300 =291 ms

I had expected that the [H] values (in ms) and the display waveform would not change (after all at this point I am only changing a scale) and the event's internal value would be recalculated from the displayed value,
- new event value = 97% x 192 / 300= 62%
- displayed value = 62% of 300 =186ms

Also, I have an event (1 beat, 500ms long) with this [AHD] envelope: 20%, 50%, 30%
When I changed the [A] scale to Absolute, the value was calculated to be 99ms (this is Ok, scale was set but the scale was set to 100ms, so the parameter bar moved to 99%

When I changed the scale to 300ms, the parameter value changed to 297ms (99% of 300)

These are related to BR 062 and BR 056.

Let me try to summarise the conversion rules, as I see them:
- An event has a length,
- each part of its [AHD] envelope can be expressed in two ways: absolute of relative,
- in Relative mode the sum of the three values cannot exceed 100%,
- in Absolute mode the sum of the three values can exceed the event's length,
- when you change an Absolute scale the AHorD value and waveform must _not_ be recalculated,
- rather the position of the parameter bars should be recalculated,

- for example, take the previous event, [A]=20% (of 500ms), when I change the scale to relative it is shown as 99ms (on a scale of 100ms), when I change the scale to 300ms, the [a} value should stay at 99ms, and the parameter bar position should be recalculated as 99ms / 300ms = 33%

- I can see another problem that will need some thought: if I switch to Absolute mode and manually stretch the event, then what happens to the [AHD] parameter values if I then switch all three back to relative mode (remember their sum cannot exceed 100%)

Updated BRs
BR 046 - High CPU load (in v145 beta 6)
When I zoom in, in the Slicer,
- the GUI responds very slowly to any mouse movement and CPU shoots up from 3-4% to > 70%
- even when zoomed out, there is a noticeable lag when moving them mouse,


BR 035 - Saving 24-bit stereo ACIDized files corrupts them.
<<Grrr>>
Please fix this - I am fed up having to recall them from my archives.

[GilJ]

New BRs
BR 070 - Beats value resets to zero
When I select another loop in the Loops section, the beats value gets reset to zero

I also planned to report this one, which I noticed in another way: when cropping a loop, the beat value gets reset to zero...

BR 068 - Graphics errors
I get odd graphics errors every so often - lines in the background and in the slicer.
See the screenshot

Big pic:
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1301/lsbr068alg0.png

Confirmed, but for me it was essentially in the Arrangement section (rather than 'simple' lines, it was a more like small boxes!) With Darkstar's BR, we now have these graphic errors in the entire GUI of LiveSlice