Shows us Theory Newbies how to implement chords.

[JumpingJackFlash]

For God's sake, can't we just agree that there are many different methods of notating chords. That's not just one for classical and one for jazz, but many for classical and many for jazz. Some are more suited to certain types of music. No system is inherently better or worse than another for every type of music.

People use what they are familiar with. There's nothing wrong with that. You may find it harder to understand, but that doesn't make it wrong. It is up to every individual to adopt a style which suits them best. No one can say that all music should be analysed in a certain way and only that way. What works well in one context doesn't necessarily work well in another.

Agreed? (If not, I can't be bothered to argue, so you'll either have to accept it, or continually hurl insults at everyone who doesn't use the same exact methods that you do).

Like I said Jack, you really need to stay out of this for a while. There will be plenty of opportunity for us to bicker about naming conventions in the future. I enjoy our little discussions.
At the moment the problem child is trying to ally himself to you, and he's not an ally you want. So best stay clear.

Fine, I am definitely trying to stay clear from now on.

Obviously there is certain history between you and Toxi, which I am only partially aware of. I will say this though; Toxi and I have (and do) disagreed on several issues, but at least we are (generally) capable of discussing the issue without resorting to insults, arrogance, blatant bias or raking up old arguments that are no longer relevant.

But that's it from me, I'm outta here

[nuffink]

Toxi and I have (and do) disagreed on several issues, but at least we are (generally) capable of discussing the issue without resorting to insults, arrogance, blatant bias or raking up old arguments that are no longer relevant.

Unfortunately you seem to be the only one that can say that, because he's annoying just about everyone else.

[vurt]

Toxi and I have (and do) disagreed on several issues, but at least we are (generally) capable of discussing the issue without resorting to insults, arrogance, blatant bias or raking up old arguments that are no longer relevant.

Unfortunately you seem to be the only one that can say that, because he's annoying just about everyone else.

its true, its like watching someone with "progressive idiocy" with almost every post.

[Hink]

what happened to the drummer?

[laputa_sync]

what happened to the drummer?

vurt ate drummer.... its only logical answer...

[Hink]

what happened to the drummer?

vurt ate drummer.... its only logical answer...

well good for him he's finally got a little rhythm in him

[vurt]

er he went home.
was just a quick meeting about some studio time we have booked.

[laputa_sync]

er he went home.
was just a quick meeting about some studio time we have booked.

good cover up....

[vurt]

i wouldnt eat this drummer hes vegatarian.

[VicDiesel]

as genres like DnB, . you'll find almost NO jazz influence at all;

hmmm...

I should clarify: none that I've heard.

Ages ago I picked up a compilation "Jazz Jungle". It wasn't exactly bebop solos, but jazzy nonetheless.

Also, you sometimes come across big-bandish tunes with dnb beats behind them. Works surprisingly well.

Oh, and the late great Derek Bailey did that disc "Guitar 'n' Drum 'n' Bass". Free jazz to jungle beats. that was nifty.

Victor.

[No name]

I have less of a clue coming out of this thread than I did coming in.

[Sascha Franck]

I have less of a clue coming out of this thread than I did coming in.

Yeah well - I can perfectly understand that. Didn't have much time since yesterday, but I sort of promise to post some examples tomorrow (CET).

[No name]

I didn't mean it in a bad way, I suppose that saying I didn't learn anything would be incorrect, because I did. It's just that with all the different chord names and the ones i'm not used to seeing all the different ways of writing out chord names (such as minor chord numerals being capital letters which I assume makes them major, and vice versa). I also see that a lot of chords aren't technically in the proper key, and i'm not sure how you would even come to a conclusion that a certain chord would fit in with the current progression.

What is this berklee standard I hear of, what is it exactly?

[Sascha Franck]

What is this berklee standard I hear of, what is it exactly?

Just a way of writing down chord symbols (or roman numbers if you don't relate to a certain key).
If you ever have the chance, look into something such as "The New Realbook" (some lead sheets for jazz and other contemporary standards), it's using that very system.
I'm not even exactly sure whether there's a "defined" Berklee chord symbol system, but I got more or less familiar with the term during studying.

Actually, it's not even worth making a big deal out of it. Just some conventions that (at least these days) most "contemporary" (read: pop, rock, jazz, etc) musicians are familiar with.
Basically, it differs from the classical system by using capital letters all throughout, with minor chords being indexed by a following "min" (or sometimes just "m"), whereas in classical "descriptions" there's been lower case letters used for minor chords. It's usually a bit easier to decipher on handwritten sheets.
C or c = the differences between the two are rather small, whereas C or Cmin is just clear, even on the worst handwritten sheet.
There's a few more minor differences, but after all it's not a biggie.

[chardin]

Yeah well - I can perfectly understand that. Didn't have much time since yesterday, but I sort of promise to post some examples tomorrow (CET).

Thank you, in advance, Sascha Franck. I'm looking forward to your examples.