hi there
yesterday ive wached a video of herbie hancock jammin on his rhodes chroma..
and i was quite impressed. i love the sound he's playing.
he's got that funk in his ass but he got the most funkyst sound i could imagine to play.
heres the link for you :
so i asked myself if i could find some free samples of this sound or maybe a good emulation.
do you guys know any resources or a good emulation of this wonderfull synth ?
yes , ive searched at kvr but found nothing really usefull.
greetz
btw: sorry if i posted in the wrong forum.
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- KVRAF
- 16861 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Yes, there are some fairlight samples online, for example at
http://www.ghservices.com/gregh/fairligh/examples.htm
In this particular video I think Herbie uses the Fairlight solely as a beatbox. You see him playing the Fairlight keyboard around 2:10 - 2:20. It's set at elbow hight while he's standing and fiddling the screen. But when he's playing that funky stuff at 2:40 and onwards, he's sitting at a different keyboard. BTW can you count how many keyboards are crammed into that small space?
That "funky sound" is something that doesn't sound as typical Fairlight to me, but more like a standard analog subtractive synth. Maybe it was a Prophet V, can't really see properly what it is. But wooden side panels... could be a Prophet, also by the sounds of it. Shouldn't be that hard to make a simular patch with any analog-like VST.
You won't find a VST version of the Fairlight CMI. Remember, it was the first DAW: not only a sampler but also sequencer. The software was very cumbersome compared to today's DAWs and samplers. So there's very little point to make a one-to-one simulation.
http://www.ghservices.com/gregh/fairligh/examples.htm
In this particular video I think Herbie uses the Fairlight solely as a beatbox. You see him playing the Fairlight keyboard around 2:10 - 2:20. It's set at elbow hight while he's standing and fiddling the screen. But when he's playing that funky stuff at 2:40 and onwards, he's sitting at a different keyboard. BTW can you count how many keyboards are crammed into that small space?
That "funky sound" is something that doesn't sound as typical Fairlight to me, but more like a standard analog subtractive synth. Maybe it was a Prophet V, can't really see properly what it is. But wooden side panels... could be a Prophet, also by the sounds of it. Shouldn't be that hard to make a simular patch with any analog-like VST.
You won't find a VST version of the Fairlight CMI. Remember, it was the first DAW: not only a sampler but also sequencer. The software was very cumbersome compared to today's DAWs and samplers. So there's very little point to make a one-to-one simulation.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 33 posts since 28 Nov, 2004
thanx for the reply bertkoor.
you maybe right that he using the fairlight for beatbox and jams on another synth.
i thought he's playing the fairlight via midi.
yeah his room looks like a garage exept he gots no cars but enough synths to travel the world
in the low notes the sound doesnt seem too special but in the high notes its sounding so damn funky .like @ 5.00 mins
i can hear some little rez modulation and some good reverb. and chords playing
but iam not expirienced enough to make a patch by myself like this.
guess i should study more synthesis therory .
could you maybe give me a little advice in forming such a patch '?
or do you think the whole funkyness is just added by himself through his funky fingers ?
you maybe right that he using the fairlight for beatbox and jams on another synth.
i thought he's playing the fairlight via midi.
yeah his room looks like a garage exept he gots no cars but enough synths to travel the world
in the low notes the sound doesnt seem too special but in the high notes its sounding so damn funky .like @ 5.00 mins
i can hear some little rez modulation and some good reverb. and chords playing
but iam not expirienced enough to make a patch by myself like this.
guess i should study more synthesis therory .
could you maybe give me a little advice in forming such a patch '?
or do you think the whole funkyness is just added by himself through his funky fingers ?
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- KVRAF
- 4229 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Right here, in front of my computer...
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- KVRAF
- 16861 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
The reverb definitely doesn't come from the used synth. Considering the time and the sound of it I'd say it's a bog-standard spring reverb as found on guitar amps (e.g. Fender Twin Reverb) and powered mixers of that time.
Funky fingers definitely do help...
Funky fingers definitely do help...
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 33 posts since 28 Nov, 2004
well i was already on this site , it has a lot of technically and historical information but unfortunally not sound samples to proove this is the right synth , herbie used ..
but it seems you are right beej :
http://www.rhodeschroma.com/?id=promo&f=vintage
on this link you see herbie comment about the rhodes chroma
unfortunally this helps me not really .
but thanx anyway now i know wich one it should be.
but it seems you are right beej :
http://www.rhodeschroma.com/?id=promo&f=vintage
on this link you see herbie comment about the rhodes chroma
unfortunally this helps me not really .
but thanx anyway now i know wich one it should be.
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- KVRAF
- 4229 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Right here, in front of my computer...
I know I'm right, I can see the synth in the vid!
Despite some clever technology for that time, from what I can see it's a fairly straightforward analog poly, so you should be able recreate some similar sounds on anything that has a two-oscillator->filter->amp chain, especially if it's a fairly fat sounding VA.
I recommended the site because it has programming manuals, descriptions on the synth architecture, and even SYX file downloads and graphical editors, which would give you plenty of information on how to recreate the sound using different gear.
It's unlikely you are going to find sound samples of that particular patch unless it was a preset - but it's probably one of Herbie's own sounds. You'd have to find someone with a Chroma to ask - try on the vintagesynth.org forums...
Despite some clever technology for that time, from what I can see it's a fairly straightforward analog poly, so you should be able recreate some similar sounds on anything that has a two-oscillator->filter->amp chain, especially if it's a fairly fat sounding VA.
I recommended the site because it has programming manuals, descriptions on the synth architecture, and even SYX file downloads and graphical editors, which would give you plenty of information on how to recreate the sound using different gear.
It's unlikely you are going to find sound samples of that particular patch unless it was a preset - but it's probably one of Herbie's own sounds. You'd have to find someone with a Chroma to ask - try on the vintagesynth.org forums...
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- KVRist
- 291 posts since 3 Dec, 2002 from tokyo
Didn't the Chroma have polyphonic aftertouch, which then, and even now is pretty rare? For adding an extra layer of expressiveness.
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 3 Mar, 2007 from Oakland, CA
I think your correct about the aftertouch.
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