Good brass sample librarys?

[mmichalski59]

I spent about 4 hours to set instruments and edit keyswitches, velocity and effects.

Chris Hein

So would you figure that the inexpereienced user would triple that time? I am assuming that you obviously know your product inside and out as well the competition, something another user would not.

[Chris Hein]

@chris
do you have an upright bass? I did not know this. Is it released?

"Chris Hein - Bass" will be a huge bass library based on the concept of "Chris Hein - Guitars" containing:
- 3 different Upright Basses - Steel-string, Nylon-string and gut-string. Each with about 30 articulations and 8 velocities
- a Musicman Stingray with 8.000 samples, about 60 articulations, pick, plectrum, slap hammer, slap pull, 10 velocities
- a great Le Fey Fretless Bass with the same details as the Musicman
- a large selection of synth basses with a unique custom interface with total control about lots of features
Instead of the chord-mode of the guitars, the basses will have a unique "phrase-designer" with a lot of presets.

I will show "Chris Hein - Bass" on Musikmesse Frankfurt.
Release will be in Summer.
More info will come up in April on my website.

Chris Hein

So would you figure that the inexpereienced user would triple that time? I am assuming that you obviously know your product inside and out as well the competition, something another user would not.

Setting the keyswitches in "Chris Hein - Horns" was not the thing I spend most time with.
Its not so hard to set the articulations.
Most of the time was for mixing. setting the right volume, dynamics, effects, etc.
You always have to fiddle a little bit when arranging a standard midi file that you did not play by yourself.

I don't know how long you would need. Download the midi file and try.
But I know, I often spent a lot of time trying to get an instrument to sound right that has not the variety of articulations.
Trying to use pitch bend or different instruments to get the sound I want.
So, actually I think its faster with Chris Hein - Horns, because all the articulations are there.

[sirbellog]

Hello Chris,
glad to learn that you work on a new library : I do enjoy CHH and CHG, and will be looking forward to anything you make.
YET........
Respectfully, I just want to say (as long as it may be not too late) :
do we REALLY, seriously, indeed, need more SYNTH basses ??????
The sample/synth market is already populated, flooded, overcrowded with emulations and/or samples of synth basses of all sorts (be it digital, vintage, dance, techno, hip hop and in-between), while on the other hand it is VERY underwhelmed with detailed, professionnal-soundong electric/acoustic instruments.
Remove CH Warwick and Scarbee's bass, which are not very young, Hardcorebass, which is a little "special" and far from perfect, and Majestic, not perfect either and in a "closed" format, and that's it (Trilogy never convinced me, although I had several opportunities to play it)....
So, IMHO, is it worth wasting your time competing with litteraly hundreds of tons of existing synth bass libs/synths, while there are so many real instruments (fender, gibson, rickenbaker, ibanez, alembic, to name just a few and in 4, 5, fretted/fretless versions...) which have not been or have just been very poorly sampled... ?
From you, this synth thing, in comparison with the small amount of real instruments announced, surpises (and maybe disapoints) me a little....
And I won't even comment on this "phrase designer"... What we do need is a deep programming in realistic articulations (killer scripts for legato, hammer-ons, pull-offs, etc, NOT pre-made licks.... But here again this is just my opinion...
Have you totally made up your mind on this matter, or will you maybe reconsider the approach ?

[lunik]

Yes, sounds damn good.

I just bought Garriton Jazz and Big Band. It doesn't sound as good as this, though its more an arrangement tool than anything. I'm writing parts for real players with access to clarinets, sopraninos etc so Garritons breadth appealed.

Still, the Hein horns seem to be of production quality ie you could use them on a commerical release in many cases.

hum the horns are quite rich an expressive good job !!

[Chris Hein]

do we REALLY, seriously, indeed, need more SYNTH basses ??????

Yes we do!
If you know CHH and CHG you should know that its all about control.
The synth basses will be very special. Loading one instrument and having 128 completely different synths is just one feature.
The most interesting thing will be the "Hybrid-Bass" section. A mix of real basses with synths.
Have you ever seen a synth bass with 8 velocities?

Come to Musikmesse Frankfurt and see a preview at the Best Service both.

Chris Hein

[K-Slash]

"Chris Hein - Bass" will be a huge bass library based on the concept of "Chris Hein - Guitars" containing:
- 3 different Upright Basses - Steel-string, Nylon-string and gut-string. Each with about 30 articulations and 8 velocities
- a Musicman Stingray with 8.000 samples, about 60 articulations, pick, plectrum, slap hammer, slap pull, 10 velocities
- a great Le Fey Fretless Bass with the same details as the Musicman
- a large selection of synth basses with a unique custom interface with total control about lots of features
Instead of the chord-mode of the guitars, the basses will have a unique "phrase-designer" with a lot of presets.

I will show "Chris Hein - Bass" on Musikmesse Frankfurt.
Release will be in Summer.
More info will come up in April on my website.

Chris Hein

Oh my god ! That's an awesome news ! Thanks Chris.

By the way, do you plan to release an updated Kontakt Player 2 version of Chirs Hein Horns Vol. 1 ? Or do we need to wait for CHH Vol. 2 ^^...