Monitor & Desk Placement HELP

[Dayl]

Hi Guys,

Well the reality of a the latest edition to the family (in the next few weeks) means that I am going to have to give up the positioning of my current setup.

My current positioning is the desk and speakers in the middle of the the room approx 60 - 70 cm
away from the wall to minimise refections etc. as its on the second floor of an a frame the sloped ceiling is reasonable.

But. I am going to have to pretty much give up my 'man' space and share my project studio with a bunch of other gear etc.

The best way for me to do this is to get a corner desk and hike it all in there.

I havnt seen this set up too much and that is probable with goo reason. I wont need to jam the speakers back to the wall but they will be at each end of the right angle to each other.

I use the original Tannoy Reveal actives. for what they are, they are not too picky about change of enviroment but this is going to make a diff. the benifit (i can only imagine is that this angle will point them straight at my ears (which I have to do anyhow)

I am sorry for the speil, I just dont really know how to explain.

I am looking for advice.

Think corner of room in an 'A' Frame house and you should be able to imagine the angles and reflections I will have to overcome.



thanks guys

[Dayl]

B B Bounce

Am I in the wrong forum? I thought this sort of thing has a lot to do with your production technique

[BertKoor]

The worst acoustic space is a cube with parallel walls. The angled wall/ceiling of your A-frame actually solves some problems, since reflections are angled in direction. But it's not a symetrical space anymore if you go into the corner. Hard to say how good/bad it actually will be...

But are you going to place the monitors directly on the desk, or do you have stands?

[Dayl]

Thanks for the answer, yes they will be on stands at ear height.

The righthand monitor will have to deal with the slope of the a frame (including being on the outside of an exposed beam running up to the ceiling. the other would be on the back wall.

Could I try some negative/unbalanced acoustic treatment see as I'm already asking for trouble?

[Dayl]

Boing!

Maybe if I named the thread:
'Perfect Mix on Headphones'
I might have gotten more interest.

[Vegetarian]

That or complaining about how you find it impossible to get good bass from software and that you had to borrow your friend's Virus to make decent tarnce

You might experience a bit of a bass boost from the buildup of reflections in the corner of the room, which can be countered if your monitors have any frequency attenuation controls. From what I remember though Tannoy's Reveal series doesn't have any such controls, at least on the recent models. This might not make the sound unworkable though, if you can't discern much of a difference in sound quality once you've moved the speakers you may have little to worry about.
Also, yes, acoustic treatment's always a good idea although given the dimensions of the room change at different heights it might be interesting trying to get appropriate treatment solutions, but I'm not sure so much you'll be able to solve any bass build-up problems if you're stuck right in the corner. You'll have to see how it goes I guess.

[Dayl]

Yeh, thanks for that mate.

Cheers

[ahjteam]

I have been helping in building one studio (like only carrying stuff, not involved in the building process in any ways) and actually only problematic area stopping the floating waves was the roof. If you don't get claustrophobic because of lower wall, you should try building some bass traps there (as the require quite much space).

The walls were pretty easily done by making the room more closer to hexagon or circle than square, but then again this does make the room about 5% smaller. They were pretty easy, but expensive to build. First some "lasivilla" (i have no idea what its in english, but its heatinsulation-material made of fiberglass-wool, picture http://www.isover.fi/files/pictures/tu_re_kt.jpg), then thick black "huopakangas" (my dictionary said "felt" or "blanket", but looks like this: http://www.kam.fi/artema/images/kt4.jpg), then add 2-3 horizontal stripes of wood (of your preferred material), then use either epox or nails to attach vertical stripes of wood with different depth (I think we used something between 3cm and 10cm and as much as 20cm in the corners) and 1-3cm space between them (hard to describe, but kinda like really tight wooden jail-bars). If done correctly, it will look awesome, if done incorrectly, it will look disgusting but does the job ok.

I have seen that in some studios they have made horizontal stripes instead of vertical

[Dayl]

hmm, thanks heaps for that, I cant see my landlord going for that option tho. I'll just have get it done and see what happens.

[mothman]

f**k yer landlord, you can't make rock-n-roll by minding yer landlords r-u-l-e-s!

[jackson]

I had a corner setup a few years back, and I have to say it wasn't anywhere near as bad as it was made out to be. The only treatment I had in there was a curtain behind one (it was next to a window) and a folded up blanket or something behind the other speaker.

I don't know if I got lucky or something, but I really had few problems with standing waves, frequency peaks, etc. In fact,t hat was the only setup I had that didn't have that horrible zone somewhere in the room where all the bass collected.

[where02190]

I had a corner setup a few years back, and I have to say it wasn't anywhere near as bad as it was made out to be. The only treatment I had in there was a curtain behind one (it was next to a window) and a folded up blanket or something behind the other speaker.

I don't know if I got lucky or something, but I really had few problems with standing waves, frequency peaks, etc. In fact,t hat was the only setup I had that didn't have that horrible zone somewhere in the room where all the bass collected.

I'm curious, what did you use for measurement to acoustically tune the room?