Poetry and music?

[ouroboros]

Is poetry music? All depends on the definition of music, I would say
ignoring the obvious for a moment, most people understand poetry as rhythmic based, employing meter. Is that musical? Free verse would stretch the consideration and still other primarily imagistic or convention-busting poetry would as well. There is some poetry, conscious of the question, that intentionally has no meter, tries to subvert it and still remain poetry. Is it? Dunno. The line between prose and poetry is pretty elusive, Mr. Joyce.

[Toxikator]

Poetry is very much a transition between Music and Prose, but just for fun I'd like to see if we can't draw a line that puts certain elements firmly in the "musical" realm and other elements firmly in the "nonmusical" realm.

But is free verse poetry any less musical for its lack of definite rhythm than "tone poetry" or ambient compositions (typically listed at 0BPM)?

[ouroboros]

mu?

I don't know. Part of the problem is that the musicality of poetry is always described in terms of rthym, meter, assonance, dissonance: so the terms of the discussion produce those results. Poetry in other languages can be even more obtuse to English speaking minds: inflected languages can use meter, but also devices such as "Acrostics" with a disregard for phonic meter or any sound, more concerned with visual look on a page.

[AllenPOPO]

life is sound, sound is life, music imo is the appreciation of sound......the birds singing a morning song, the panting of a nearby jogger, the wind rustling through the dogwoods in spring....


...rap music...


...its all music. poetry, dance, painting....to me music is life. its what YOU in particular appreciate to be, "music to your ears." some might think music HAS TO HAVE harmony.....tell that to the avant garde composers of the 50's and 60's.....tell that to tribes playing non traditional scales on instruments not designed for western harmony....


there are no rules in art, so questions like this are like taking a gallon of white paint, and making it collide with a bucket of black paint...your left with a large amount of grey....

[Toxikator]

tribes playing nontraditional scales are NOT, because to them the scales are quite traditional .