Free Casio VL-Tone Piano Soundfont
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- KVRist
- 264 posts since 28 Jan, 2003
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- Banned
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- KVRian
- 964 posts since 14 Jun, 2003 from USA
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- KVRian
- 830 posts since 9 Aug, 2004 from Berlin
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 264 posts since 28 Jan, 2003
I've seen both of those...PolyValens VL1 doesn't work for me in Orion (I only get the percussion sounds in the right channel) and Cheapotone doesn't quite sound like the real thing.
Besides, I figured it's maybe a nice set of sounds to load into a sampler or synth with soundfont support.
Besides, I figured it's maybe a nice set of sounds to load into a sampler or synth with soundfont support.
Last edited by chris_b on Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:58 am, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRian
- 830 posts since 9 Aug, 2004 from Berlin
what? are you kidding??!??
I did it by comparing it to samples, and to me it was quite conving in A-B comparison, so used without any "real thing" samples aside to compare with, i thought it would do the trick...
I might be def...
I did it by comparing it to samples, and to me it was quite conving in A-B comparison, so used without any "real thing" samples aside to compare with, i thought it would do the trick...
I might be def...
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 264 posts since 28 Jan, 2003
Cheapotone's sound is much brighter than a real VL-Tone. Here's a closeup of a few cycles to compare (top is Casio VL-Tone, bottom is Cheapotone:

The envelopes are very basic on Cheapotone..VL-Tone has a weird kind of stepped decay thing going on:

Also - although you can't see it in the image above - Cheapotone fades to silence quite abrubtly..the VL-Tone has a very quiet tail at the end of the decay that lasts for about 3/4 of a second.
Furthermore, the VL-Tone's pitch tracking isn't completely accurate...if you tune it so A4 is 440Hz then all the As will be in tune but the other notes fluctuate slightly away from their correct pitch across each octave.

The envelopes are very basic on Cheapotone..VL-Tone has a weird kind of stepped decay thing going on:

Also - although you can't see it in the image above - Cheapotone fades to silence quite abrubtly..the VL-Tone has a very quiet tail at the end of the decay that lasts for about 3/4 of a second.
Furthermore, the VL-Tone's pitch tracking isn't completely accurate...if you tune it so A4 is 440Hz then all the As will be in tune but the other notes fluctuate slightly away from their correct pitch across each octave.
Last edited by chris_b on Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:59 am, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRian
- 830 posts since 9 Aug, 2004 from Berlin
The setting isn't ok then, cause i can tell you i can very very esily match that wave with it.
Go in the editor, set LP to a lower pitch, and you should got it.
I did it quite seriously, so it should look the same (I did the presets by looking at the waveforms before listening to it); but maybe I messed some presets later in the process...
It is very easy to set it up inside synthedit, cause you have the scope to check the shape.
But for the deacy, you're right.
maybe in a future update...
Go in the editor, set LP to a lower pitch, and you should got it.
I did it quite seriously, so it should look the same (I did the presets by looking at the waveforms before listening to it); but maybe I messed some presets later in the process...
It is very easy to set it up inside synthedit, cause you have the scope to check the shape.
But for the deacy, you're right.
maybe in a future update...
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- KVRAF
- 4669 posts since 26 Sep, 2005 from U.A.E
perhaps a clipped wave modulating the volume at a fixed freq?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 264 posts since 28 Jan, 2003
Fair enough..I was just comparing the default piano preset.Mokafix wrote:Go in the editor, set LP to a lower pitch, and you should got it.
It looks like it's maybe just a matter of connecting the ADSR's output to a quantizer, then connecting the quantizer's output to a peak follower.But for the deacy, you're right.
maybe in a future update...
