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fgimian · Post by **fgimian** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:46 am

Hey all, I am looking to buy some good dance sample libraries for things like loops, kick drums, snares, claps, hihats and so forth.

I currently use the samples that come with Reason and what I hate most about them is that they are all ripped from other tunes. On many samples, it is so obvious too due to all the dirt / background noise in most of them.

Especially in terms of kick drums, I find that Reason's sample library is just terrible and have been sampling my own kick drums from commercial tracks and building my own sound which is a lot better.

I have been told about the Vengeance sample libraries but again, I've heard from friends that these are all just rips from commercial tracks.

Are there any good libraries with "original" sounds ? Very clean, generated by snyths or real drums and put together professionally ? There about 5 - 6 loops in the Reason library which are of the quality I am referring to ... those are the last few in the House directory if you want to check them out. There's also the last one in the Drum & Bass and Hip Hop directory.

They are extremely high quality, stereo drum loops which are only percussion and fit into tracks extremely well. I need a lot more of these and a high end collection of individual drum hits which are not just sampled from other places.

The sorts of artists that use the sort of percussion I'm after are...

- Armin Van Buuren (his remix of Motorcycle - When The Rush Comes)
- Alex M.O.R.P.H (check tracks like Unification, remix of Markus Schulz's Without You Near and Super8 vs DJ Tab - Helsinki Scorchin)
- Signum (can't think of any particular track at the moment)
- Maor Levi (check out the percussion on his remix of Can't Sleep by Above & Beyond)
- Above & Beyond / Oceanlab (Oceanlab - Sky Falls Down especially, most other A&B songs are pretty generic in their beats)

Any ideas what sort of libraries they would use ?

Thank you all so much for your help on this

GHOST19 · Post by **GHOST19** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:59 am

I think that you shouldn't listen to your friends and that the vengeance sets are very good.

fgimian · Post by **fgimian** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:02 am

Cool, but they are sampled aren't they ?

laputa_sync · Post by **laputa_sync** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:03 am

your friends suck.....

ghost is right...
vengenceancencnea runs tings.

fgimian · Post by **fgimian** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:05 am

any particular library that I should check out ? are the Club libraries the best ?

Are there any others I should check out apart from vengeance ?

P.S.: If you've never heard Helsinki Scorchin (Alex M.O.R.P.H. Remix), go to beatport.com and grab yourself a copy, probably the best trance track (or at least one of the best) I've ever had the pleasure of listening to.

laputa_sync · Post by **laputa_sync** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:09 am

not sure which is "the bestest" but why not get a sampler (audacity perhaps) and some drum vsts and experiments... that will get you some good stuffs.

tee boy · Post by **tee boy** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:15 am

Out of the libraries available to date, I think the Vengeance ones are the best.

Yes, the kicks are sampled. But he has atleast given them some attention (unlike many other companies who nic them straight of the records and bundle them in raw!).

Imo, the Vengeance libraries are the best on the market right now. But that said, I only bought the first and didnt feel compelled to buy any further ones. Id rather just sample my own kicks if Im going to be working that way!

TB

loopdon · Post by **loopdon** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:48 am

laputa_sync wrote:your friends suck.....

ghost is right...
vengenceancencnea runs tings.

Esp with the already added hihats on kicks.

loopdon · Post by **loopdon** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:50 am

tee boy wrote:Out of the libraries available to date, I think the Vengeance ones are the best.

Yes, the kicks are sampled. But he has atleast given them some attention (unlike many other companies who nic them straight of the records and bundle them in raw!).

Imo, the Vengeance libraries are the best on the market right now. But that said, I only bought the first and didnt feel compelled to buy any further ones. Id rather just sample my own kicks if Im going to be working that way!

TB

Agreed. I can do that myself.

fgimian · Post by **fgimian** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:00 am

Cool, thanks folks. So it's mainly the kicks that are bad on those Vengeance ones ?

I'll certainly have a think about it. Mh friend has quite a few sample CDs he bought over the years. I'll see which one he recommends too and let you know.

If anyone can suggest any other good sample libraries for the same purpose, please let me know.

Thanks for all your help

fgimian · Post by **fgimian** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:21 am

Does anyone use the Spectraonics / Zero G libraries ?

If so, how are they ?

Elijah.P · Post by **Elijah.P** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:37 am

Vengeance is all you need, perhaps the best dance library on the market
especially the bassdrums kicks ass!

and forget about zeroG, ueberschall or whatever... they have absolutely no Idea what dance music is, because they are no producers. Vengeance & Friends are behind the most important dance release in germany.

PS: Hihat on kicks are quite important, as long as it is part of the attacknoise.
it would sound like a crappy 909 or 808 drum, if its missing.

JonathanDragonDJ · Post by **JonathanDragonDJ** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:17 pm

can you post a link to the vengeance site...or the best store to order from....

laputa_sync · Post by **laputa_sync** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:33 pm

JonathanDragonDJ wrote:can you post a link to the vengeance site...or the best store to order from....

a link to the vengeance site????

what are you? thats insane!!!

WHAT IS BE GOOGLE FOR?

search the webnets yourself...

google "vengeance sample cd" perhaps???

Hellbilly · Post by **Hellbilly** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:35 pm

Official http://www.vengeance-sound.de/

And Webshop http://www.mutekki.com/catalog/index.ph ... 9b564c62bf

Good Trance / House drum sample libraries ?