hardware mixer with limiter?
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- KVRAF
- 16861 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Do you require a limiter on each channel (for multi-track recording) or just for the main outputs?
You won't find it indeed. I'd select a mixer with inserts per channel and buy some Behringer compressor/limiters. The kind with four of them in one unit... Does the job, rather cheap!
BTW: if you need a limiter in live usage the engineer is doing something wrong, and depends on the limiter to correct it. Just watch the track levels, adjust the gain trims in case. Comnpressors can be nice to have (I mix live without any) but limiters... I won't touch them!
You won't find it indeed. I'd select a mixer with inserts per channel and buy some Behringer compressor/limiters. The kind with four of them in one unit... Does the job, rather cheap!
BTW: if you need a limiter in live usage the engineer is doing something wrong, and depends on the limiter to correct it. Just watch the track levels, adjust the gain trims in case. Comnpressors can be nice to have (I mix live without any) but limiters... I won't touch them!
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 346 posts since 7 Sep, 2004
Thanks for the replies.
re: the engineer, I agree about all that, but when I do my sets I have some effects that sometimes can spike out of control if I go overboard. I need to avoid that!
re: the engineer, I agree about all that, but when I do my sets I have some effects that sometimes can spike out of control if I go overboard. I need to avoid that!
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- Banned
- 487 posts since 14 Nov, 2006
Turn the efx down, and pay more attention to proper gain staging.
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- KVRAF
- 7045 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from france
But limiting peaks can be usefull, right ?
Why would you avoid limiters (per track and on the output) ?
And in case some peaks make the output clip, is is "better" ("less bad") to clip on the master, or on the track ?
I mean, i know in the digital domain, we really have to avoid digital clipping, but in the analogue domain, is it such a bad thing ?
Why would you avoid limiters (per track and on the output) ?
And in case some peaks make the output clip, is is "better" ("less bad") to clip on the master, or on the track ?
I mean, i know in the digital domain, we really have to avoid digital clipping, but in the analogue domain, is it such a bad thing ?
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- Banned
- 487 posts since 14 Nov, 2006
Useful in that they keep idiots from blowing shit up.
Limiters sound like ass when you hit them unless you have a very expensive high end limiter.
Yes clipping is a bad thing, speakers don't respond well to square wave.
Limiters sound like ass when you hit them unless you have a very expensive high end limiter.
Yes clipping is a bad thing, speakers don't respond well to square wave.
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- KVRAF
- 7045 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from france
yes, but proper limiting can help you maximizing overall volume, and along with nice compression giving more beef to your sound.
A 3-6 db limited peak is quite ok, at least to my ears.Not talking about monitoring, but talking about overall volume...
A 3-6 db limited peak is quite ok, at least to my ears.Not talking about monitoring, but talking about overall volume...