KVR Audio

chagzuki · Post by **chagzuki** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:39 am

Graininess.

Yuck.

Marduchk · Post by **Marduchk** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:42 am

GreyLion · Post by **GreyLion** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:40 am

Hellbilly -- If you're still interested in the $99 W2-W5 deal, you might check at www.jrrshop.com, since they also offer it, to see if they can give you a better shipping price.

It's an amazing reverb incidentally. I'm incredibly pleased with this particular purchase.

dalor · Post by **dalor** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:33 am

1) WIZOO
2) ArtsAcoustic Reverb
3) Silverspike (but needs alot of tweaking! The presets are just bad).

afreshcupofjoe · Post by **afreshcupofjoe** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:15 am

I don't get all of this Trueverb bashing. It has some really great sounding early reflections if you keep it low in the mix. I'll often put it in front of a convolution verb to give some nice space around the instrument. I don't know of any other verb that does this quite so well as Trueverb. As long as you don't push it too hard it can sound brilliant. It's not CSR and I definitely wouldn't use t as my go to verb, but it has it's uses. If it's guilty of anything it's that it's way overpriced for what it does. IMO Arts Acoustic is probably the best replacement for it. CSR is really nice, but it has a totally different character that reminds me nothing of Trueverb.

SuperFly76 · Post by **SuperFly76** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:17 am

pough wrote:What about RaySpace? I haven't tried it, myself, but it claims to be all about the sounds of physical spaces rather than musical effects.

I keep demo'ing rayspace every time a new version or update comes out because I totally love the concept and theory behind the program. Hovever I find the reverbs that I generate with it to be rather sub par IMHO. I have even noticed fluttering echos in the tails of certain reverbs. It is an awesome concept that I want to love but the sounds just aren't there yet for me. This is of course totally my subjective opinion. Try the demo, you may love it! I myself will be waiting for the next version. Maybe the program needs more ray traces to deliver what I would consider a realistic reveb.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:11 am

SuperFly76 wrote:
pough wrote:What about RaySpace? I haven't tried it, myself, but it claims to be all about the sounds of physical spaces rather than musical effects.
I keep demo'ing rayspace every time a new version or update comes out because I totally love the concept and theory behind the program. Hovever I find the reverbs that I generate with it to be rather sub par IMHO. I have even noticed fluttering echos in the tails of certain reverbs. It is an awesome concept that I want to love but the sounds just aren't there yet for me. This is of course totally my subjective opinion. Try the demo, you may love it! I myself will be waiting for the next version. Maybe the program needs more ray traces to deliver what I would consider a realistic reveb.

That's totally been my experience too; cool concept, but can't get it to sound as high-quality as other reverbs.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:32 am

bduffy wrote:These guys? I thought Wizoo was bought out by M-Audio - oh! Right, M-Audio = Avid.

Well, this is a good side effect of corporate consolidation! (and that means a lot coming from me. )

I wouldn't say it's a good thing. Ok, for now, in "as is" condition, perhaps yes. But when you update your computer to whatever else (so you may need VST3, a UB or 64bit version or whatever...), you're out of luck as the Wizooverb won't be updated anymore.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:35 am

Sascha Franck wrote:
bduffy wrote:These guys? I thought Wizoo was bought out by M-Audio - oh! Right, M-Audio = Avid.

Well, this is a good side effect of corporate consolidation! (and that means a lot coming from me. )
I wouldn't say it's a good thing. Ok, for now, in "as is" condition, perhaps yes. But when you update your computer to whatever else (so you may need VST3, a UB or 64bit version or whatever...), you're out of luck as the Wizooverb won't be updated anymore.

Right. I'm glad it's safe to hate monopolies again.

AKJ · Post by **AKJ** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:05 am

for an algorithmic reverb spinaudio roomverb m2 seems to be most powerful. the presets are weak but play around with it and you will find it to be excellent.

AlienForce · Post by **AlienForce** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:49 am

AKJ wrote:for an algorithmic reverb spinaudio roomverb m2 seems to be most powerful. the presets are weak but play around with it and you will find it to be excellent.

RoomVerb for Powercore sounds much better than the native version.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:31 pm

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chagzuki · Post by **chagzuki** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:34 pm

ttoz wrote:
chagzuki wrote:I haven't used trueverb for about 5 years so I've no idea how it's developed or whether it's developed at all, but back then it was a load of shit.
you weren't using it right...for long lush tails for example it was useless, that was never it's intention...

it emulates rooms, and does it rather well actually

Can't remember clearly enough but I'm sure it was meant to simulate large spaces too.

Which reverb can rival/test Waves trueverb??