That's the one I'm using (R8B Pro) but I haven't done any extensive tests or curves or charts, 8x10 photos or anything...dusted william wrote:[I believe that the free audiomove is up to the task, but r8brain pro is probably better.
Which reverb can rival/test Waves trueverb??
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- KVRAF
- 2049 posts since 18 Sep, 2003 from Seattle USA
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- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
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- KVRAF
- 4867 posts since 18 Dec, 2000
I'm paraphrasing here.
He said something along the lines that some say it may be as good, but R8Brain pro was a little better.
...maybe not worth the extra cash though.
dw
He said something along the lines that some say it may be as good, but R8Brain pro was a little better.
...maybe not worth the extra cash though.
dw
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- KVRAF
- 2049 posts since 18 Sep, 2003 from Seattle USA
I believe he likes it as well as or better than R8Brain, but R8Brain PRo is another story...maybe if he stops by he can say. Meanwhile here's a fun read:
http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index. ... h=15163/0/
http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index. ... h=15163/0/
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- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
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- KVRian
- 666 posts since 29 Dec, 2006 from Auckland, New Zealand
This sort of thing interest me quite a bit. Would anyone care to start a thread dedicated to up sampling and the results? I would but cant think of how to get the ball rolling.bduffy wrote:Hi, I'm back! If I may interject into the fray...
Before I went into this last mixing session, I upsampled the previous 96k mixdown to 192khz with Audiomove, but didn't get a chance to listen to it. I just listened to it in Wavelab against this last mix, which I exported at 44/32, and damn, I have to say that the high end was definitely smoother on the 192khz mix!! The pro-upsample people are right!
So I re-opened Cubase and I'm exporting my mix again at 96k (I don't get 192khz as an option, even if EMU supports it?), and maybe I can post something...mind you, would there be any point in posting an mp3? I guess so, if the purpose is to wind up with a better 16-bit master?
Oh, and should I upsample the final mix to 192, or should I just stay at 96k? I mean, it's a quater of a Gig!!
Whats audimove?
Anyway.. off topic I know.
Sorry
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- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
Hey Dayl! Great idea. We should totally open a new topic. I'll start one now...Dayl wrote:This sort of thing interest me quite a bit. Would anyone care to start a thread dedicated to up sampling and the results? I would but cant think of how to get the ball rolling.bduffy wrote:Hi, I'm back! If I may interject into the fray...
Before I went into this last mixing session, I upsampled the previous 96k mixdown to 192khz with Audiomove, but didn't get a chance to listen to it. I just listened to it in Wavelab against this last mix, which I exported at 44/32, and damn, I have to say that the high end was definitely smoother on the 192khz mix!! The pro-upsample people are right!
So I re-opened Cubase and I'm exporting my mix again at 96k (I don't get 192khz as an option, even if EMU supports it?), and maybe I can post something...mind you, would there be any point in posting an mp3? I guess so, if the purpose is to wind up with a better 16-bit master?
Oh, and should I upsample the final mix to 192, or should I just stay at 96k? I mean, it's a quater of a Gig!!
Whats audimove?
Anyway.. off topic I know.
Sorry
EDIT: New thread over here
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- KVRian
- 666 posts since 29 Dec, 2006 from Auckland, New Zealand
Cool,
Because I got hooked on the smoother highs part and this is something that I really need
to start learning/applying.
And for something unrelated but maybe funny.
I have a track I am working on where the drums etc were in saved in one project, and the bass/melody saved in another for (no real good reason)
I rendered the wav files and imported them into SX to mix down and add extra midi parts etc.
I worked for an hour or so and it wasnt quite sounding right and I couldn't figure it out.
turns out, one project was 98BPM and the other....97.
What a difference 1 bpm makes
Because I got hooked on the smoother highs part and this is something that I really need
to start learning/applying.
And for something unrelated but maybe funny.
I have a track I am working on where the drums etc were in saved in one project, and the bass/melody saved in another for (no real good reason)
I rendered the wav files and imported them into SX to mix down and add extra midi parts etc.
I worked for an hour or so and it wasnt quite sounding right and I couldn't figure it out.
turns out, one project was 98BPM and the other....97.
What a difference 1 bpm makes
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- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
Wow! That'll do it! I thought you were gonna say the sample rate was wrong. I guess everyhing "snapped into place" after that, eh?Dayl wrote:Cool,
Because I got hooked on the smoother highs part and this is something that I really need
to start learning/applying.
And for something unrelated but maybe funny.
I have a track I am working on where the drums etc were in saved in one project, and the bass/melody saved in another for (no real good reason)
I rendered the wav files and imported them into SX to mix down and add extra midi parts etc.
I worked for an hour or so and it wasnt quite sounding right and I couldn't figure it out.
turns out, one project was 98BPM and the other....97.
What a difference 1 bpm makes
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- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
God, is there any other way to mix? Hey, it looks like it's time for our regular late-night ramblings!
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- KVRian
- 666 posts since 29 Dec, 2006 from Auckland, New Zealand
haha yup. but only 6pm in NZ atm but I'm usually here till late (very busy, 1 project at a time)
do you by chance mix any bands? reason I ask is because I have been offered the chance to mixdown a track for this guys band so he can see if I can 'walk the walk' so to speak.
So I will be getting the the individual tracks in the next week or so.
They have a parlament funkadelic type sound mixed with ben harper and a little pink floyd (can you imagine)
It really came about as I told him that I do all my work via PC and hes a hardware (I've got my expensive 16tracker with onboard FX)type. He doesn't want to believe that I can get a mix sounding good from a PC and that this type of thing is better for dance music.
......problem is.... I've never mixed a band before, so it will be very interesting.
I'm going to need some someone to bounce off and get feedback from (unless the guy chickens out)
Thsi is probably where I should really start increasing th sample rates etc.
do you by chance mix any bands? reason I ask is because I have been offered the chance to mixdown a track for this guys band so he can see if I can 'walk the walk' so to speak.
So I will be getting the the individual tracks in the next week or so.
They have a parlament funkadelic type sound mixed with ben harper and a little pink floyd (can you imagine)
It really came about as I told him that I do all my work via PC and hes a hardware (I've got my expensive 16tracker with onboard FX)type. He doesn't want to believe that I can get a mix sounding good from a PC and that this type of thing is better for dance music.
......problem is.... I've never mixed a band before, so it will be very interesting.
I'm going to need some someone to bounce off and get feedback from (unless the guy chickens out)
Thsi is probably where I should really start increasing th sample rates etc.
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- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
Oh man, well, you gotta hit up the people here! You'll SMOKE the competition!
In truth, I don't mix live acts, although I'd feel pretty confident about it now, but my brother has about 10 yrs experience at a big studio in Ontario, so what I don't know, I get from him. I'd be thrilled to help out anyway I can, but make sure you get some advice from some of the studio cats here. I also got some killer threads archived that can save your mix about 99% of the time, so...
In truth, I don't mix live acts, although I'd feel pretty confident about it now, but my brother has about 10 yrs experience at a big studio in Ontario, so what I don't know, I get from him. I'd be thrilled to help out anyway I can, but make sure you get some advice from some of the studio cats here. I also got some killer threads archived that can save your mix about 99% of the time, so...
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
2 files.
http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/EatShitMrShy/44.1.mp3
A 3-part chord played in a sampler. The root note is way below and only a single saw sample has been used, so the sampler has got to do a lot of pitching itself. As a result, you hear massive aliasing.
http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/EatShitMrShy/96.mp3
Exactly the same chord, same sampler patch, just the host samplerate upped to 96kHz. After bouncing it down, I converted the file to 44.1 using Audiomove (but if anybody still doesn't believe what's being discussed here, I will gladly post the raw files as well).
Yes, I used the EXS sampler, which is famous for its aliasing, but what the heck - this is happening with a lot of other samplers, instruments and plugins as well.
And, in addition, this is just ONE single chord. Imagine how things could add up in a crowded mix!
Mr. Shy, I do now EXPECT A f**king APOLOGY!!!
http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/EatShitMrShy/44.1.mp3
A 3-part chord played in a sampler. The root note is way below and only a single saw sample has been used, so the sampler has got to do a lot of pitching itself. As a result, you hear massive aliasing.
http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/EatShitMrShy/96.mp3
Exactly the same chord, same sampler patch, just the host samplerate upped to 96kHz. After bouncing it down, I converted the file to 44.1 using Audiomove (but if anybody still doesn't believe what's being discussed here, I will gladly post the raw files as well).
Yes, I used the EXS sampler, which is famous for its aliasing, but what the heck - this is happening with a lot of other samplers, instruments and plugins as well.
And, in addition, this is just ONE single chord. Imagine how things could add up in a crowded mix!
Mr. Shy, I do now EXPECT A f**king APOLOGY!!!
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