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sloworm wrote:dayum riley, how do i mapp cc's tho? that is the one aspect of tech i never got into :((

*using the search function as well
Do you have Live 6 and a KP3? I just use "midi learn". I'm not a mapper either. That's one reason, of many, that I use Live 6 as a host. It's just so easy and intuitive to make music and have fun doing it.
Riley :hihi:
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nice very nice, my daw of choice is Live 6 also, if you come across some vids of anyone doing this please post'em

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stale bread wrote:nice very nice, my daw of choice is Live 6 also, if you come across some vids of anyone doing this please post'em
There one on youtube but the guy never shows a good screen shot of what's happening with Live. There's allot of KP3 videos on youtube.

Riley
Macbook Pro M4, Ableton 12 Suite, NI Komplete

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riley4reason wrote:
stale bread wrote:nice very nice, my daw of choice is Live 6 also, if you come across some vids of anyone doing this please post'em
There one on youtube but the guy never shows a good screen shot of what's happening with Live. There's allot of KP3 videos on youtube.

Riley
yeah i think i've seen them all, if you get a hankering to make one yourself by all means don't let us hold you back :wink: , btw thanks for the tips.

so Live is my main thing, then the mpc,and the kaosspad will complete. so you are mainly using the kaoss pad to control Live or you mostly use it as a self contained phrase sampler/efx box?

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stale bread wrote:
riley4reason wrote:
stale bread wrote:nice very nice, my daw of choice is Live 6 also, if you come across some vids of anyone doing this please post'em
There one on youtube but the guy never shows a good screen shot of what's happening with Live. There's allot of KP3 videos on youtube.

Riley
yeah i think i've seen them all, if you get a hankering to make one yourself by all means don't let us hold you back :wink: , btw thanks for the tips.

so Live is my main thing, then the mpc,and the kaosspad will complete. so you are mainly using the kaoss pad to control Live or you mostly use it as a self contained phrase sampler/efx box?
i forsee the kaoss pad helping in a live show...i am creaming, it will be here tommorow...and yes riley, i got live 6, just got it, learning it as well :) :)

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sloworm wrote:
stale bread wrote:
riley4reason wrote:
stale bread wrote:nice very nice, my daw of choice is Live 6 also, if you come across some vids of anyone doing this please post'em
There one on youtube but the guy never shows a good screen shot of what's happening with Live. There's allot of KP3 videos on youtube.

Riley
yeah i think i've seen them all, if you get a hankering to make one yourself by all means don't let us hold you back :wink: , btw thanks for the tips.

so Live is my main thing, then the mpc,and the kaosspad will complete. so you are mainly using the kaoss pad to control Live or you mostly use it as a self contained phrase sampler/efx box?
i forsee the kaoss pad helping in a live show...i am creaming, it will be here tommorow...and yes riley, i got live 6, just got it, learning it as well :) :)
Excellent Slowroom,

You are in for some real inspiring possibilities.

Stale Bread, I have not taken the time to learn my video equipment or youtube. Email that dude off youtube and send him a link to this thread. I bet he'll make it happen, he seems like he wants to be helpful and other than not showing the host, I think he did a good job.
Riley :hihi:
Macbook Pro M4, Ableton 12 Suite, NI Komplete

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riley4reason wrote:
sloworm wrote:dayum riley, how do i mapp cc's tho? that is the one aspect of tech i never got into :((

*using the search function as well
Do you have Live 6 and a KP3? I just use "midi learn". I'm not a mapper either. That's one reason, of many, that I use Live 6 as a host. It's just so easy and intuitive to make music and have fun doing it.
Riley :hihi:
Can you map seperate "bits"of the pad, ie different ares etc ?
I can never seem to get my Remote 25 X-Y pad to work in two directions properly at once.

Also has anyopne here played much with the mini yet ? At that price it seems like it could be great fun. Seems it's only limits are the lack of sampling, and can't be used as a controller or record pad movements ? But if that's it, it seems a steal for almost 100 gbp less ?

Thanks in advance,

Nev
I span the genres, they call me the genre spanner.

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Nev wrote: Also has anyopne here played much with the mini yet ?
Yes; see my earlier comments in this same thread.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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Can you map seperate "bits"of the pad, ie different ares etc ?

Yes, the KP3 has 8 different patterns that the pad can be set to and each pattern will be divided to send out different CC and note on/off numbers. You an even use it for mixer control on your DAW.

Riley :hihi:
Macbook Pro M4, Ableton 12 Suite, NI Komplete

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whyterabbyt wrote:
sloworm wrote:i think i might pick it up, but which one would you suggest whyte rabbit, the mini or the kp3?
If you only want the effects, and dont need sampling, or intend to use it as a midi control surface, then you do save a fair bit on the mini. But the pad is smaller, has no visual feedback, and you only get two recallable presets. Its far more portable though, and runs off batteries.

It really does depend what you want to do with it, TBH.
also, with the kp3 i can bypass using the rca by using the mic in and headphone out right?
Yeah, you can, but bear in mind that it wont be line level signals from those.
Thanks for the replys whyterabbyt and riley and the info you have both posted earlier in this thread.

How do you find tempo syncing the effects back into your DAW or have you been using this to effect live instruments mostly ?

The mini seems like a good box for live use, or to use to resample it's output and the KP3 more of an all in one.
Are there any other alternatives like this that people here have had experiences with ?

Many thanks as ever,
nev
I span the genres, they call me the genre spanner.

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riley4reason wrote:
Can you map seperate "bits"of the pad, ie different ares etc ?

Yes, the KP3 has 8 different patterns that the pad can be set to and each pattern will be divided to send out different CC and note on/off numbers. You an even use it for mixer control on your DAW.

Riley :hihi:
wow :) sounds cool. I assume you can't do this with the K2 or K1 ?

I'm off to google :D

Nev
I span the genres, they call me the genre spanner.

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Nev wrote:
riley4reason wrote:
Can you map seperate "bits"of the pad, ie different ares etc ?

Yes, the KP3 has 8 different patterns that the pad can be set to and each pattern will be divided to send out different CC and note on/off numbers. You an even use it for mixer control on your DAW.

Riley :hihi:
wow :) sounds cool. I assume you can't do this with the K2 or K1 ?

I'm off to google :D

Nev
Never had a k1 but the K2 sends out CC#s but not like the KP3. I'ts pretty limited but it still makes a great XY midi controller and it records motion too....I think, it's been a while since I had one.
Riley
Macbook Pro M4, Ableton 12 Suite, NI Komplete

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riley4reason wrote:
Nev wrote:
riley4reason wrote:
Can you map seperate "bits"of the pad, ie different ares etc ?

Yes, the KP3 has 8 different patterns that the pad can be set to and each pattern will be divided to send out different CC and note on/off numbers. You an even use it for mixer control on your DAW.

Riley :hihi:
wow :) sounds cool. I assume you can't do this with the K2 or K1 ?

I'm off to google :D

Nev
Never had a k1 but the K2 sends out CC#s but not like the KP3. I'ts pretty limited but it still makes a great XY midi controller and it records motion too....I think, it's been a while since I had one.
Riley
sorely tempted. What else can you do over USB, or is it just the sending of samples ? If only the mini sent midi I'd be in heaven.

Sorry for so many questions, I just think it's always better to get an opinion from someone who actually has a unit and has used it. I was thinking about getting a second hand esx1 but this looks much more fun :)

Nev
Last edited by Nev on Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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AFAIK, the KP1 and KP2 just did a straightforward X-Y CC thing. The KP3, as mentioned, has 8 different different 'maps' of how CCs are assigned. The details for these are in the PDF for the editor program, btw, but not in the main user manual PDF.

For anyone who wants more info, btw, that main manual is available as a PDF from the Korg website.

http://www.korg.com/downloads/pdf/KP3_OM_EFG1.pdf
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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what can you do on a kp that you cant do with just a midi kb?
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