KVR Audio

kara · Post by **kara** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:06 pm

jupiter8 wrote:I believe autolooping when i see it. Is there really a program that does it well ? I mean really well.

Very simple answer : NO...

Hewitt Huntwork · Post by **Hewitt Huntwork** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:08 pm

Daniel78 wrote:
Avene wrote: I know the latest E-MU EOS2 sampler now has this feature, but I don't have an E-MU card to use that with. It would be nice though with those z-plane filters.
FYI, since version 2, EmuX doesn't require an E-MU audio card to run... the standalone version ships with a small usb midi interface, which it uses as a "dongle".

Just so you guys know, and everybody else knows, the reason I'm reading this thread is because I'm hoping for a way to compensate for the unforgivable latency and cpu usage of Proteus X2. So if you're looking to Emu to solve a problem, good luck!

Failed Muso · Post by **Failed Muso** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:38 pm

kara wrote:
jupiter8 wrote:I believe autolooping when i see it. Is there really a program that does it well ? I mean really well.

Very simple answer : NO...

You've obviously never used Antares Infinity then ?

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:37 pm

Sam@Megablastic wrote:I really don't think you can trust a program to "auto loop" that has to be done with your own ears to get it right.

But Extreme Sample Converter is probably the best app in my eyes for sure for building up your own library

I hear that! Think I need a "my own ears" vst.. searching....

Lovesign wrote:You've obviously never used Antares Infinity then ?

Dayum no windows version arrg..

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jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:46 pm

Lovesign wrote:
kara wrote:
jupiter8 wrote:I believe autolooping when i see it. Is there really a program that does it well ? I mean really well.

Very simple answer : NO...
You've obviously never used Antares Infinity then ?

Nope i have'nt. I'm particulary anal when it comes to looping. I don't even like to use crossfades. I have used a couple of tools for looping that easies the process a bit but none that is fully automatic. I'd love for it to be one but i remain sceptical.

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:59 pm

It would be good for someone to come up with an algo that could at least give different snap shots or suggestions of possible loop points..

To explain myself better, in Vsampler theres an Autolooper feature that would be cool in some kind of batch app on its own (for those of use that are less anal about using crossfades etc).

Guess I can wish right

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jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:02 pm

Lagrange wrote:It would be good for someone to come up with an algo that could at least give different snap shots or suggestions of possible loop points..

To explain myself better, in Vsampler theres an Autolooper feature that would be cool in some kind of batch app on its own (for those of use that are less anal about using crossfades etc).

Guess I can wish right
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Zero-X Seamless looper is pretty good.It'll give you suggestions.
You still have to pick the best one for yourself though.
So no batch processing. And you still need to audition if it gets better with crossfade loop.

Bassballjg · Post by **Bassballjg** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:07 pm

jupiter8 wrote:
Lagrange wrote:It would be good for someone to come up with an algo that could at least give different snap shots or suggestions of possible loop points..

To explain myself better, in Vsampler theres an Autolooper feature that would be cool in some kind of batch app on its own (for those of use that are less anal about using crossfades etc).

Guess I can wish right
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Zero-X Seamless looper is pretty good.It'll give you suggestions.
You still have to pick the best one for yourself though.
So no batch processing. And you still need to audition if it gets better with crossfade loop.

As it should be. Even with a batch autoloop process, you do want to choose by using your ears. Seamless Looper does batch, and so does Vsampler. However, I think VSampler is much, much better than Zero-X. I get a lot more usefull crossfade loops from it, and I don't even use Seamless Looper any more.

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:18 pm

Bassballjg wrote:As it should be. Even with a batch autoloop process, you do want to choose by using your ears. Seamless Looper does batch, and so does Vsampler. However, I think VSampler is much, much better than Zero-X. I get a lot more usefull crossfade loops from it, and I don't even use Seamless Looper any more.

Have to do the looping yourself for a 64 key instrument with multiple layers?

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!

Wait a minute.. Vsampler does batch autolooping? You've gotta explain that one to me please..

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Bassballjg · Post by **Bassballjg** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:28 pm

Lagrange wrote:
Bassballjg wrote:As it should be. Even with a batch autoloop process, you do want to choose by using your ears. Seamless Looper does batch, and so does Vsampler. However, I think VSampler is much, much better than Zero-X. I get a lot more usefull crossfade loops from it, and I don't even use Seamless Looper any more.
Have to do the looping yourself for a 64 key instrument with multiple layers?
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!

Wait a minute.. Vsampler does batch autolooping? You've gotta explain that one to me please..

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I do multisampled instruments all the time, usually 15-20-something samples, but up to 52, taking every white key of an 88-note keyboard. Whole libraries of extensively multisampled stuff.

On the VS page, in the far right pane, select the view either samples of library or, better zones of instrument, and select all zones. Right click in that pane, and you will get a menu that includes sustain loop options. I would still be working on my 2005 output without that feature, seriously.

Opulent Audio · Post by **Opulent Audio** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:42 pm

Vonbrucken wrote:Directwave can do this tooit has Built-in VSTi host to easily automate "sampling" of your vst instruments directly .
http://www.image-line.com/documents/directwave.html
can't go wrong with it as it has lifetime free-upgrade .

I was blown away the first time. So easy you'll wonder if that's all there is to it

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:44 pm

Hey thanks for that Info.. Doing it now.. processing.. So by doing that autoloop batch on an entire instrument, can I apply a specific loop outline to each instrument? THIS IS SO COOL.. I've had this app for how long now and I did'nt know it did that!

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Bassballjg · Post by **Bassballjg** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:50 pm

Lagrange wrote:Hey thanks for that Info.. Doing it now.. processing.. So by doing that autoloop batch on an entire instrument, can I apply a specific loop outline to each instrument? THIS IS SO COOL.. I've had this app for how long now and I did'nt know it did that!

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Glad to turn you on to it. VSampler with its editor and autolooping combined with sf2 output makes it the most powerful multisample instrument builder going. I can't say enough about how cool it is.

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:54 pm

HOLY SHIT I DID THIS JUST QUICK ON SOME SLICED DRUMS (1st instrument I ran into) AND IT SOUND LIKE A REALLY COOL GRANULATION/FSU type effect WOW! I will mess this more FOR SURE but do you know if you can set up an init loop that will be applyed to each sample?

EDIT: Ok I did a Auto loop hard for each sample and as I can see now it's different for each (which It should be)..

Sorry for the

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mw · Post by mw » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:05 am

the autoloop in Directwave works pretty well.

Software that creates sample programs from VSTi synths?