Genelec 8040A or other monitor suggestion?
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- KVRAF
- 2118 posts since 1 Apr, 2004 from Athens, Greece
I have a pair of Behringers Truth B2031A and I want to upgrade to something better. I have heard Genelec's 1030A and liked them a lot. I'm also thinking of Genelec's 8040A. I would appreciate any comparison between the two, or some other suggestion in the same price range.
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- KVRist
- 35 posts since 30 Dec, 2004
I take it your price range is between $1000 and $1400. So hear is my take
those monitors have a very flat frequency response, but alot of people tend to comment that they mask alot in a mix and make everything sound to good, thats great if you are just going to monitor with them but if you are looking for a mix that will translate well you would be better off with
JBL LSR4328P
Dynaudio BM 5A
PMC TB2 (passive)
or anything by ATC
Genelic monitors are overpriced and there are to many better options out there. If I were you I'd say the JBL may be the best bang for your buck, but the dyno's may allow for left over cash towards a sub. Keep in mind that many people over the past couple years have switched from Genelic to pmc, atc, dyno.
those monitors have a very flat frequency response, but alot of people tend to comment that they mask alot in a mix and make everything sound to good, thats great if you are just going to monitor with them but if you are looking for a mix that will translate well you would be better off with
JBL LSR4328P
Dynaudio BM 5A
PMC TB2 (passive)
or anything by ATC
Genelic monitors are overpriced and there are to many better options out there. If I were you I'd say the JBL may be the best bang for your buck, but the dyno's may allow for left over cash towards a sub. Keep in mind that many people over the past couple years have switched from Genelic to pmc, atc, dyno.
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- KVRian
- 1322 posts since 30 Oct, 2003 from Pacific NW, USA
I agree with djverne's suggestion on the JBL LSR4328P set of monitors. They sound great! I had the chance to sit-in with a professional producer/mix engineer while he was mixing an album that contained acoustic instruments (including violin and cello), electronic synths (hardware and software), male and female vocals, live drum kit with an extensive amount of various percussion and cymbal pieces, and electric guitar and bass. That is a lot of material to mix together and have every part 'gel' with each other.
He actually has a pair of Genelec 8040A's with a 7050B subwoofer. But he mentioned to me that he uses those mainly for Hip-Hop/R&B and Pop Rock mixing sessions. The JBL's had amazing accuracy and clarity. I could hear all of the articulate detail of each instrument, which surprised me due to the diversity of all the different sound sources. Of course I realize he is a professional with over 15 years of experience and knows how to 1- get a great recording with high-end hardware processors at the tracking stage, 2- has knowledge about how to use dynamics and mastering tools (hardware and software), 3- is well educated about the psychology of mixing and arranging, and 4- knows his DAWs inside and out (he uses LogicPro and Pro Tools HD3).
At some point this year, I also will be upgrading my monitors, so I've been going to any studio I can get access to and evaluate what they are using and why. I've also made appointments with the local music retailers so that I can have time to demo different models in their 'studio/Pro Tools' room. I would suggest that you demo some monitors at a store near you. Bring along some of your music or the type of music you're into on CD. I've learned that different brands offer monitors suited to a particular style of music. While they all brag about clarity and wide frequency response, it's how they sound to you that counts. If you're into Hip-Hop/R&B or Rock, the EVENT Studio Precision 8's are well suited for those genres.
Good Luck, I hope you find a set that you'll be happy with and won't cost an arm and a leg.
Peace - morphex
He actually has a pair of Genelec 8040A's with a 7050B subwoofer. But he mentioned to me that he uses those mainly for Hip-Hop/R&B and Pop Rock mixing sessions. The JBL's had amazing accuracy and clarity. I could hear all of the articulate detail of each instrument, which surprised me due to the diversity of all the different sound sources. Of course I realize he is a professional with over 15 years of experience and knows how to 1- get a great recording with high-end hardware processors at the tracking stage, 2- has knowledge about how to use dynamics and mastering tools (hardware and software), 3- is well educated about the psychology of mixing and arranging, and 4- knows his DAWs inside and out (he uses LogicPro and Pro Tools HD3).
At some point this year, I also will be upgrading my monitors, so I've been going to any studio I can get access to and evaluate what they are using and why. I've also made appointments with the local music retailers so that I can have time to demo different models in their 'studio/Pro Tools' room. I would suggest that you demo some monitors at a store near you. Bring along some of your music or the type of music you're into on CD. I've learned that different brands offer monitors suited to a particular style of music. While they all brag about clarity and wide frequency response, it's how they sound to you that counts. If you're into Hip-Hop/R&B or Rock, the EVENT Studio Precision 8's are well suited for those genres.
Good Luck, I hope you find a set that you'll be happy with and won't cost an arm and a leg.
Peace - morphex
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- Banned
- 487 posts since 14 Nov, 2006
The JBL LSR series is amazing. I used to have a pair of 1030's, and once I heard the LSR28P's, I couldn't even stand listening to them anymore. They are very flattering, and for me difficult to mix accurately on. Now, with the LSR28P's and a pair of NS-10's to mix on, mixes translate perfectly to anything first try.
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- Banned
- 487 posts since 14 Nov, 2006
Not even remotely in the same league as the LSR's ro Genelecs.dalor wrote:Samson Rubicon R6a.
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- KVRist
- 78 posts since 4 Apr, 2005 from Germoney
Make sure to check the Yamaha HS80m as well.....they're really a killer for the price.
...and I used to work on Genelec for ages.....wouldn't trade anything for my HS80 now....
...and I used to work on Genelec for ages.....wouldn't trade anything for my HS80 now....
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2118 posts since 1 Apr, 2004 from Athens, Greece
Thanks for the suggestions guys. The JBL LSR4328P look really nice.
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- KVRist
- 154 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Germany
Just some month ago I was asking myself the same question. I ended up with the Focal Solo 6 BE. I'm more than satisfied!!! I compared music on Adam, Genelec, Dynaudio etc. For my taste, I couldn't find anything more true and unmasking than those Focal speakers. They're very reliable in what you hear is what you get. No distortion no matter at which level (each speaker has two amps and gives you 250w). Range from 40hz to 40khz, so no desperate need for a subwoofer. No raise in mids as Adam (ear fatigue), no raise in lows as Genelec. Just flat...
They're about the same price range (I paid 750 EUR per speaker). Maybe you like to check them out http://www.focalprofessional.com/en/pro ... lo6Be.html . I can only recommend them!
They're about the same price range (I paid 750 EUR per speaker). Maybe you like to check them out http://www.focalprofessional.com/en/pro ... lo6Be.html . I can only recommend them!
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- KVRian
- 759 posts since 22 Mar, 2002 from fi
i've been using a pair of dynaudio bm6as myself for a few years. they're very good and i would recommend to check them out. as far as i can remember, dynaudio has an updated version (bm6a mk2 or something) out now, don't know how they are.
also, the new genelec series (80x0) is a lot better than the old 10x0 line. i didn't like the old ones at all but the new series seem very good based on listening to one model a few times. neutral and IMHO not overpriced. one thing though, they seem to be even more sensitive to room acoustics and placement than other nearfields i've tried, don't know why. we managed to get them sounding really accurate instead of just okay with adjustments so small i didn't believe they could actually count.
adam a7 has gotten lots of rave reviews from people i trust. no experience with those. definitely worth a listen based on all the comments. ditto the jbl lsr series.
one point to consider is where the speakers are manufactured. genelecs and dynaudios seem to be a lot cheaper in europe, and adams and mackies in the usa in comparison, so that might skew the price/performance ratings somewhat. i remember a nearfield shootout by some us mag a few years back. they had had about same size genelec and mackie nearfields in it (1030 and 824hr i guess). mackies got better overall points even the reviewer preferred the sound of the genelecs, because the genelecs cost a LOT more. but when i checked out my local stores, the mackies cost exact same amount as the genelecs here. so i guess the "overpriced" and "what a bargain" type comments depend on where you live too.
and finally, never buy something like expensive nearfields without taking a trip to a shop / studio to listen them first. take some cds with well-mixed songs you know thoroughly with you, go to the place and listen to the speakers. it's still very much a matter of taste in the end.
also, the new genelec series (80x0) is a lot better than the old 10x0 line. i didn't like the old ones at all but the new series seem very good based on listening to one model a few times. neutral and IMHO not overpriced. one thing though, they seem to be even more sensitive to room acoustics and placement than other nearfields i've tried, don't know why. we managed to get them sounding really accurate instead of just okay with adjustments so small i didn't believe they could actually count.
adam a7 has gotten lots of rave reviews from people i trust. no experience with those. definitely worth a listen based on all the comments. ditto the jbl lsr series.
one point to consider is where the speakers are manufactured. genelecs and dynaudios seem to be a lot cheaper in europe, and adams and mackies in the usa in comparison, so that might skew the price/performance ratings somewhat. i remember a nearfield shootout by some us mag a few years back. they had had about same size genelec and mackie nearfields in it (1030 and 824hr i guess). mackies got better overall points even the reviewer preferred the sound of the genelecs, because the genelecs cost a LOT more. but when i checked out my local stores, the mackies cost exact same amount as the genelecs here. so i guess the "overpriced" and "what a bargain" type comments depend on where you live too.
and finally, never buy something like expensive nearfields without taking a trip to a shop / studio to listen them first. take some cds with well-mixed songs you know thoroughly with you, go to the place and listen to the speakers. it's still very much a matter of taste in the end.
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- KVRAF
- 2317 posts since 11 Mar, 2003
Another vote for PMC TB-2s. Expensive but you'll never need another speaker as long as you live (unless you get a nice big studio room, in which case you'll want some bigger PMCs 
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- KVRist
- 257 posts since 18 Dec, 2004
Funny thing is you can setup the extremelly affordable Tascam VLX5 to sound very close to Genelecs 1029A (or rather 1030A because of the amount of bass they produce).
And they have those neat blue leds.
A7 are good. For "pedantic" people, I guess, and not overpriced. Their bass surprisingly doesn't go really lower than Tascam VLX5's.
No contest in accuracy, though.
And they have those neat blue leds.
A7 are good. For "pedantic" people, I guess, and not overpriced. Their bass surprisingly doesn't go really lower than Tascam VLX5's.
No contest in accuracy, though.