KVR Audio

AKJ · Post by **AKJ** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:45 am

to make it clear. I do not want this for composition work (although I agree that a composition based an chance might be great, I actually heard some very good music based on that principle), but I want it for loop-based live performances. And a loop does sound much better if it has some variation in it. Check the video about the chaos designer of Spectrasonoc's Stylus RMX in order to know what I mean. And no, it could not just use this tool, since I want to create my own (midi-based) loops.

maxhodges1 · Post by **maxhodges1** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:50 am

did you look at Lucifer? bit of a learning curve, but I think it might be an excellent solution.

Meloday · Post by **Meloday** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:05 am

erratic is very cool for variations for each cycle:

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2730.html

ERA/EST might be worth checking out as well--it's easy to create variation with gate times, fills, time variations, holds, repeats, slides, etc...

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/938.html

AKJ · Post by **AKJ** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:48 am

thanks guys but lucifer etc. is based on audio mangling. what I would like to see is automatic midi pattern variation.

deaf dunderkwac · Post by **deaf dunderkwac** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:39 pm

AKJ wrote:thanks guys but lucifer etc. is based on audio mangling. what I would like to see is automatic midi pattern variation.

in real-time... [fixed]
that's a very big difference.

alex zonder · Post by **alex zonder** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:52 pm

Might be useful after some experimentation (and in combination):

Randomid - http://www.thepiz.org/vst.html
Arp4midi - http://www.xoxos.net/midi.html
Randomvelo - http://mindthepressure.free.fr/plugz.php

These are free, tweak settings to make them work well for drum sequences

And have a look again at Sonicbytes ERA and Gat'R

AKJ · Post by **AKJ** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:27 pm

Meloday wrote:erratic is very cool for variations for each cycle:

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2730.html

ERA/EST might be worth checking out as well--it's easy to create variation with gate times, fills, time variations, holds, repeats, slides, etc...

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/938.html

actually, if EST would have the randomisation features of Erratic that would be it. Why is nobody doing such a thing: full featured stepsequencer with intelligent randomisation?

deaf dunderkwac · Post by **deaf dunderkwac** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:04 pm

AKJ wrote:
Meloday wrote:erratic is very cool for variations for each cycle:

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2730.html

ERA/EST might be worth checking out as well--it's easy to create variation with gate times, fills, time variations, holds, repeats, slides, etc...

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/938.html

actually, if EST would have the randomisation features of Erratic that would be it. Why is nobody doing such a thing: full featured stepsequencer with intelligent randomisation?

MakingWaves does this in *not* real-time. I sometimes use the velocity and note offset randomize feature over sections.
I've made use of the note-pattern generator but only rarely do I ever actually use the results.

Meloday · Post by **Meloday** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:25 pm

AKJ wrote:
Meloday wrote:erratic is very cool for variations for each cycle:

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2730.html

ERA/EST might be worth checking out as well--it's easy to create variation with gate times, fills, time variations, holds, repeats, slides, etc...

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/938.html

actually, if EST would have the randomisation features of Erratic that would be it. Why is nobody doing such a thing: full featured stepsequencer with intelligent randomisation?

good question.

i think i remember reading in a thread somewhere that erratic will, at some point, have a built-in step sequencer so you could build each pattern, then you can adjust the randomness from there.

my question is, why aren't there any step sequencers that allow the user to toggle the 'pads', in the sequence row, on and off live via midi? if there is one availabe, let me know!

AKJ · Post by **AKJ** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:48 pm

you could try cortex, but I am not sure if I really understand what you mean.

stk · Post by **stk** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:22 pm

wow, if you lot made as much music as you posted rambling.... really i don't give a f**k how you make music, 'long as you do.

p/out sk

laputa_sync · Post by **laputa_sync** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:23 pm

stk wrote:wow, if you lot made as much music as you posted rambling.... really i don't give a f**k how you make music, 'long as you do.

p/out sk

Stop posting and use SE!!!!

stk · Post by **stk** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:24 pm

meh, bored of it now, too much music to make.
actually i should stop posting and go to work. but i'm too lazy.

anyway, i'm sure you see the illegitimacy of your simile ;p

laputa_sync · Post by **laputa_sync** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:27 pm

stk wrote:meh, bored of it now, too much music to make.
actually i should stop posting and go to work. but i'm too lazy.

anyway, i'm sure you see the illegitimacy of your simile ;p

stk is mean, or my language skills are diabolical.

stk · Post by **stk** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:37 pm

there there

Wish for FL Studio (or any other host): pattern variation