Ultimate Best Reverb presently

[fgimian]

But ArtsAcoustic defaults to 100% too...

There is a wonderful feature in AA if you are a preset tweaker. In the options, you can make it ignore the Wet / Dry knob when changing presets, which means...

1) Set your Dry / Wet control as you like
2) Click on any preset and you'll hear it with the same Dry / Wet mix

Very intelligent feature indeed

Just a note for Ableton users, try tweaking the Reverb that comes with Live, I managed to make it sound almost identical to CSR. Extremely flexible and under-rated verb in my opinion.

Cheers
Fots

I have a hard time believing this, but please do share your presets.

I'll play around with this tonight

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... everb+mono

I'm going by the findings reported in this thread on the Ableton forum. See in particular the second post, from Angstrom...

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... ght=reverb

Also this thread form the Live 6 beta forum.

Thanks a lot for the info mate

Cheers
Fots

[headquest]

No worries. I would be interested in your presets as well, by the way

[AVBunyan]

Understanding that every ear and wallet is different -
I've tried most of them mentioned (mostly demos except for what I actually have) and my ears tell me Altiverb or Waves IR1 - these verbs along with the loads of impulses are, to me, just simple lush and stunning...for a plug-in.

God bless

[fgimian]

No worries. I would be interested in your presets as well, by the way

Hope the demo version will allow me to save, if not, I'll provide screenshots

Fots

[jjensson33]

Why is Magix VariVerb missing in this poll?
jj

[bduffy]

There are lots of things missing in this poll, and that one's already been mentioned.

[pdxindy]

But ArtsAcoustic defaults to 100% too...

There is a wonderful feature in AA if you are a preset tweaker. In the options, you can make it ignore the Wet / Dry knob when changing presets, which means...

1) Set your Dry / Wet control as you like
2) Click on any preset and you'll hear it with the same Dry / Wet mix

Very intelligent feature indeed

yes, I was just going to mention this... very nice for previewing

[fgimian]

Yes, I must admit, in comparison to something like R66, the AA verb is extremely well thought out. Everything from preset management to Dry/Wet control to visual feedback to flexibility.

It's pretty hard to make it sound bad too unlike R66 which can sound awful if tweaked incorrectly.

Fots

[fgimian]

After playing around with Rayspace further, I see numerous issues with it.

- It is extremely difficult to get the sound you want, mostly trial and error
- With some instruments, on particular notes, there's a sort of resonance to this which sounds harsh and un-natural. I noticed it with a few instruments and the same problem does not occur in AAR at all.

In summary, my favorites of the bunch by far were AAR and CSR.

Cheers
Fots

[bduffy]

But ArtsAcoustic defaults to 100% too...

There is a wonderful feature in AA if you are a preset tweaker. In the options, you can make it ignore the Wet / Dry knob when changing presets, which means...

1) Set your Dry / Wet control as you like
2) Click on any preset and you'll hear it with the same Dry / Wet mix

Very intelligent feature indeed

yes, I was just going to mention this... very nice for previewing

Yep. Should be standard issue on all reverbs...or maybe all "send"-type effects?

[dutch_schulz]

nothign in software really hits reverb like hardware yet.

Interesting point. I've heard it before, but never understood on what technical grounds it rests.
Could anyone explain it here? It should be very relevant to the topic of reverb.

[bduffy]

nothing in software really hits reverb like hardware yet.

Interesting point. I've heard it before, but never understood on what technical grounds it rests.
Could anyone explain it here? It should be very relevant to the topic of reverb.

It's come up here before, and is actually a pretty commonly-held feeling, I think, especially if I talk to studio guys. I'd have to defer to someone more technically proficient than I to explain why that is. AFAIK, it's got a lot to do with the compromises you have to make in the DSP algorithms so they don't take all of your CPU power away and still have something left for, you know, mixing.

I'm not sure how that explains the best reverb being made in, like, 1981, but I'm sure someone can.

[TreyesMarquis]

Whatup guys. I'm new to KVR. I've go an Intel-Mac and Pro Tools. Don't have much money for plugs at the moment but was told this was the spot to try different freeware. Any reverbs worth checking out that'll work with the Intel-Mac?

[sounddesigner]

Whatup guys. I'm new to KVR. I've go an Intel-Mac and Pro Tools. Don't have much money for plugs at the moment but was told this was the spot to try different freeware. Any reverbs worth checking out that'll work with the Intel-Mac?

I think Classik Studio Reverb is now Intel-Mac compatible, and it's definitely worth checking out - www.classikstudioreverb.com

edit: Sorry i did'nt see the 'freeware' part of your post. CSR is a commercial plugin.

[sascha]

It's come up here before, and is actually a pretty commonly-held feeling, I think, especially if I talk to studio guys. I'd have to defer to someone more technically proficient than I to explain why that is. AFAIK, it's got a lot to do with the compromises you have to make in the DSP algorithms so they don't take all of your CPU power away and still have something left for, you know, mixing.

I'm not sure how that explains the best reverb being made in, like, 1981, but I'm sure someone can.

It's simply not about DSP power, it's about research, the right people in the right place and - very common with reverb - trade secrets.
Reverberation is a field where people starting out get access to quite a bunch of literature on reverberation in general and a few basic algos in particular. But there's rare to none available if it comes to more sophisticated stuff.
If you then look at brands like Lexicon, Ensoniq, Quantec etc., you'll notice that the guys in the background (for instance Griesinger & Dattoro) weren't just doing research for a long time, they were literally pioneers on their field. Besides their sheer knowledge & skills, they are half a man's lifetime ahead... You may visit this page [http://world.std.com/~griesngr/] and simply bow down...