New drum-synth called smackbox. Beta-testing has commenced!

[dariusofwest]

the email is allanbrown13@sbcglobal.net

[stefancrs]

Hi dariusofwest, I got what I need at the moment (later on this might very well change) and have moved over to just adding people I already "know" to the beta test. At least for now. Sorry, and thank you.

Do you really want to post your e-mail add like that in a forum btw?

[sinkmusic]

Hi Stephan,

I will look for that "track" stuff, it looks really fine
I didn't noticed that the module volume WAS actually the crush volume (i thought it was the crush amount).
One new FR : midi learn !

Cheers

[stefancrs]

Hi Stephan,

I will look for that "track" stuff, it looks really fine
I didn't noticed that the module volume WAS actually the crush volume (i thought it was the crush amount).
One new FR : midi learn !

Cheers

When I add a pan control I can put that and volume, and output selection if I add multiple outputs, into a group of its own. Should remove a fair bunch of confusion.

Midi learn will probably have to wait, will be a whole lot of work

[sinkmusic]

urgh.
I have played with it in Live5,2, and the cpu use is 28-33% !
The beast is a little bit hungry.
BTW, 2 stereo outputs is enough for me (one for kick/snare phatness, one for cymbs, etc).

[sinkmusic]

PS : one more suggestion : one of the slots (or all?) could be mappable to more than 1 key, and would be tuned accorded to the mapping.

This is already doable. You can put a slot on any given key, and you can use the "track" knob (does it need to be relabeled?) to set how much the note pitch affects the pitch of the sound.

i got it. THat is fine

[stefancrs]

urgh.
I have played with it in Live5,2, and the cpu use is 28-33% !
The beast is a little bit hungry.
BTW, 2 stereo outputs is enough for me (one for kick/snare phatness, one for cymbs, etc).

w00t? CPU? I get around 9% for four simultaneous sounds and about 16% for eight on my Athlon64 3200+. Which I think is a tad too much, but it's far from what you're getting

[sinkmusic]

yes, it is a big lot.
I am using P4@2,6ghz. 512 ram.

[stefancrs]

yes, it is a big lot.
I am using P4@2,6ghz. 512 ram.

Ok, I just had a quick look on a P4, there seem to be some minor denormal issues, and those would cause quite a lot of CPU usage. Stupid P4's
Will fix it. You'll probably end up near 11% for four sounds until I get some time for proper optimisations.

[grillo]

But then you do get "full" dynamics, right? Zero velocity = silence etc? Otherwise there's a bug Maybe some editable velocity curve is needed.

Yeah yeah, it works at the extremes, like it should, it's not a bug, it's just that i feel it doesn't translates too well, kinda like the knob feel unresponsive and nothing changes unless you turn all the way up, but maybe that's the way it should be

i made a quick demo in smackbox, you can download it at http://www.sendspace.com/file/w4aabl i tried to program a velocity fade out on the rim thingy at the end and it indeed works, subtle, but it's there.

about the knob placement, maybe when you add the pan pot you could make kind of a output / mix section boundling together osc mix, pan and volume knobs. And if this could be you know, far right instead of left wouldn't it 'visually flow' better? ah enough ranting.

still kudos for the design, sounds big, and that's the first important thing imho for a drum machine.

[lazerkind]

I want stereo-width thingy! I think I can come up with something that works for a very small CPU hit. If I can't, I'll leave it to other FX plugs

Well, I don't see the need for stereo width FX. They usually just causes phase problems. If you implement a pan control per sound then you can set up two pads with the same settings panned left and right. And if the noise and oscillators are free running, triggering both will result in true stereo.

Or do you mean some sort of pan control that was in old Cubase VST?
/Cheers

I don't mean a conventional adjust-phase-thingy-to-fake-stereo effect, but something else that provides stereo width. Noise and oscillators are not free running. I don't want the osc to be, the noise used to be. But I prefer if every hit sounds the same unless some form of modulation (velocity counts as modulation mind you! ) is applied to the sound. You get quite unpredictable bass response with free running stuff.

Ok, makes sense. But I still don't see a real need for stereo noise. I mean a drum is mono by nature, the rest is just the space it is placed in if you ask me. Don't people use reverb when mixing now adays?

But please go ahead and try it. Maybe I'm just getting old and boring at 25+

/Cheers

[Lance]

yes, it is a big lot.
I am using P4@2,6ghz. 512 ram.

Ok, I just had a quick look on a P4, there seem to be some minor denormal issues, and those would cause quite a lot of CPU usage. Stupid P4's
Will fix it. You'll probably end up near 11% for four sounds until I get some time for proper optimisations.

Great. I have a Pentium D dual-core, but this CPU is also disposed to produce denormal thingies, and I've heard the Core 2 also have some itsy-bitsy legacy from that notorious Pentium 4 problem.

[R.A.W.]

But I still don't see a real need for stereo noise. I mean a drum is mono by nature[...]

you are right, but this is a synth, so why stop at immitating the nature? this plug reminds me of my fav drumsynth which also produces very cool electronic drums but isn't really capable of producing "normal" drumsounds.

But please go ahead and try it. Maybe I'm just getting old and boring at 25+

why? i'm 30+ and don't feel old or boring

[lazerkind]

you are right, but this is a synth, so why stop at immitating the nature?

True, I just prefer really good one trick ponys and allready have plenty of synths. A good drum synth however is another kind of beast. And I'd hate to see this lovely simple interface go absynth on me

this plug reminds me of my fav drumsynth which also produces very cool electronic drums but isn't really capable of producing "normal" drumsounds.

Agreed. I would choose cool over normal any time

/Cheers

[robindrieghe]

really curious for the stutter section